[C++-sig] [boost] [Python] GSoC and Python 3.0 Support

[Niall Douglas]

I should add that the deadline for this appears to be tomorrow (the 
12th).

Niall

On 11 Mar 2009 at 20:50, Niall Douglas wrote:

> On 11 Mar 2009 at 13:42, Ravi wrote:
> 
> > On Wednesday 11 March 2009 12:38:55 Haoyu Bai wrote:
> > > > 1. Thread safety
> > > > 2. PyFinalize support
> > > > 3. Easier methods to write to_python/from_python converters
> > > > 4. Python 3.0 support
> > > > 5. Ability to extend the fundamental PyTypeObject used by boost.python
> 
> My thread safety patch is still working to my knowledge. It sure 
> would be lovely to have it officially integrated. I'd also like to 
> see PyFinalize working though maybe not "complete" in the sense of a 
> total cleanup (just "good enough").
> 
> I would say that any GSoC project should choose *one* of the above 
> rather than try combining them. Better to do one thing well and in 
> stages than many things at once (unless you have loads of spare 
> time!).
> 
> I have been out of commission development-wise during the last few 
> years as I have been undertaking some very time consuming academic 
> study - hence I have been very quiet on here. However, I finally 
> become free come this June and at long, long last I finally can 
> return to my own self-directed study (but now I have a whole pile of 
> bits of paper to officially say I can do what I was already capable 
> of). I will certainly be updating my TnFOX library for sure anyway, 
> and that means fresh Python bindings.
> 
> > > Thanks! Seems there's a lot of interesting. So would anyone willing to
> > > mentor this?
> > 
> > Sadly, I suspect that finding a mentor will be difficult (perhaps even more 
> > difficult than the actual project). Off the top of my head, the following 
> > folks come to mind:
> >   - Dave Abrahams
> >   - Stefan Seefeld
> >   - Ralf Grosse-Kunstleve
> >   - Roman Yakovenko
> > You might try contacting them off list or on c++-sig (cc'ed on this email).
> 
> It's not /quite/ as easy as that ... Google want a mentoring 
> organisation rather than just a mentor and it has to be an approved 
> one. I could volunteer as mentor but I wouldn't qualify as I don't 
> come with an organisation attached. I'd need an approved organisation 
> to adopt me.
> 
> > I did not mean to imply that the features I requested should be part of your 
> > GSoC. Thread safety & PyFinalize support would each be worth a GSoC project 
> > just by themselves, IMHO. If you will be tackling python 3.0 support, it might 
> > be possible to combine it with greater support for embedding python since much 
> > of the work in both aspects would be about wrapping python C API for C++ 
> > programmers.
> 
> As mentioned before, thread safety is actually fairly trivial as all 
> the required work is already done. There is certainly some work 
> involved in writing a test suite and making my patch much more 
> generic as my patch was specifically designed to be diff-friendly to 
> any Boost alterations, and it doesn't make for good code. I would be 
> happy to mentor this project if we can find an approved mentoring 
> organisation to adopt me. It certainly would be a good GSoC for a 
> student programmer.
> 
> PyFinalize() is likely just a hard slog in catching all the code 
> paths you wouldn't expect. It's harder than thread safety, but doable 
> as a GSoc.
> 
> Adding Python 3.0 support ... I am afraid I have no idea as I've been 
> out of the coding scene for two years now, but it does sound big and 
> complex. But it's something I'm interested in though I'd be not much 
> use as a mentor except as in general Boost.Python programming.
> 
> So, I guess you got a bit of a mentor if you'd like. BTW, I couldn't 
> start mentoring till the start of June as I have my final project due 
> then. But that fits the GSoC timetable just perfect.
> 
> If you want to know more about my suitability, search this mailing 
> list.
> 
> HTH,
> Niall
> 
> 
> 
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