[Cython] Fwd: Re: [cython-users] checking for "None" in nogil function

Dag Sverre Seljebotn d.s.seljebotn at astro.uio.no
Mon May 7 18:07:22 CEST 2012

On 05/07/2012 06:04 PM, mark florisson wrote:
> On 7 May 2012 12:10, Stefan Behnel<stefan_ml at behnel.de>  wrote:
>> Dag Sverre Seljebotn, 07.05.2012 12:40:
>>> moving to dev list
>> Makes sense.
>>> On 05/07/2012 11:17 AM, Stefan Behnel wrote:
>>>> Dag Sverre Seljebotn, 07.05.2012 10:44:
>>>>> On 05/07/2012 07:48 AM, Stefan Behnel wrote:
>>>>>> I wonder why a memory view should be allowed to be None in the first
>>>>>> place.
>>>>>> Buffer arguments aren't (because they get unpacked on entry), so why
>>>>>> should memory views?
>>>>> ? At least when I implemented it, buffers get unpacked but the case of a
>>>>> None buffer is treated specially, and you're fully allowed (and segfault if
>>>>> you [] it).
>>>> Hmm, ok, maybe I just got confused by the code then.
>>>> I think the docs should state that buffer arguments are best used together
>>>> with the "not None" declaration then.
>> ... which made me realise that that wasn't even supported. I can't believe
>> no-one ever reported that as a bug...
>> https://github.com/cython/cython/commit/f2de49fd0ac82a02a070b931bf4d2dab47135d0b
>> It's still not supported for memory views.
> Yeah, that was never implemented, but probably should be.
>> BTW, is there a reason why we shouldn't allow a "not None" declaration for
>> cdef functions? Obviously, the caller would have to do the check in that
>> case.
> Why can't the callee just check it? If it's None, just raise an
> exception like usual?

It's just that there's a lot more potential for rather easy optimization 
if the caller does it.


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