[Datetime-SIG] Another round on error-checking

Alexander Belopolsky alexander.belopolsky at gmail.com
Thu Sep 3 17:38:52 CEST 2015

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Carl Meyer <carl at oddbird.net> wrote:

> >  This is unavoidable because
> > within the same timezone fold=1 instances don't exist: 01:59 is followed
> > by 02:00 with no room for "second 01:30" in between.
> Right. That's an excellent statement of why respecting `fold` at all is
> inconsistent with how tz-annotated datetimes are designed to behave in
> Python (they operate internally in naive time, in which the "fold" time
> does not even exist).

I wish we could have a design where fold is always ignored when you have a
single tzinfo.  The reason we cannot has been explained several times in
this thread.  The core reason is possibly a mistake in the original design
that permitted cross-zone arithmetic and comparison.  If == was defined so
that no two instances with different tzinfo ever compare equal and <, - and
friends are only defined for datetimes sharing the tzinfo, we would not
have this problem.  Recall that datetime was designed at the time when it
was thought that mixing bytes and unicode was a good idea.  We all know
what it took to fix that wart.   I don't think cross-zone datetime
arithmetic is an issue of the same scale or impact.
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