From Paul.Everitt@digicool.com Fri Mar 1 11:28:56 1996 From: Paul.Everitt@digicool.com (Paul Everitt/Digital Creations) Date: 1 Mar 96 11:28:56 Subject: [PYTHON DB-SIG] Update... Message-ID: <9603011630.AA2510@phoenix.cminds.com> I have a question about the db-sig's purpose: should we also be the forum for developing an ILU interface for data access? ---Paul ================= DB-SIG - SIG on Tabular Databases in Python send messages to: db-sig@python.org administrivia to: db-sig-request@python.org ================= From rmasse@newcnri.cnri.reston.va.us Fri Mar 1 16:35:53 1996 From: rmasse@newcnri.cnri.reston.va.us (Roger E. Masse) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 11:35:53 -0500 Subject: [PYTHON DB-SIG] Update... In-Reply-To: <9603011630.AA2510@phoenix.cminds.com> References: <9603011630.AA2510@phoenix.cminds.com> Message-ID: <199603011635.LAA10969@knowbot.Reston.Va.US> Paul Everitt writes: > I have a question about the db-sig's purpose: should we also be the forum for > developing an ILU interface for data access? > Yes please... :-) Regards, Roger E. Masse, Systems Engineer Corporation for National Research Initiatives 1895 Preston White Drive, Suite 100 Reston, Virginia, USA 22091 Internet: rmasse@CNRI.Reston.VA.US (MIME/NeXTmail OK) ================= DB-SIG - SIG on Tabular Databases in Python send messages to: db-sig@python.org administrivia to: db-sig-request@python.org ================= From mclay@eeel.nist.gov Fri Mar 1 18:48:46 1996 From: mclay@eeel.nist.gov (Michael McLay) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 96 13:48:46 EST Subject: [PYTHON DB-SIG] Update... In-Reply-To: <9603011630.AA2510@phoenix.cminds.com> References: <9603011630.AA2510@phoenix.cminds.com> Message-ID: <9603011848.AA26814@acdc.eeel.nist.gov> Paul Everitt writes: > I have a question about the db-sig's purpose: should we also be the forum for > developing an ILU interface for data access? Wasn't the original focus to be on table based databases such as SQL? Perhaps the focus should remain on that topic until the API is finished and then move on to distributed objects. Michael ================= DB-SIG - SIG on Tabular Databases in Python send messages to: db-sig@python.org administrivia to: db-sig-request@python.org ================= From rmasse@newcnri.cnri.reston.va.us Fri Mar 1 19:34:01 1996 From: rmasse@newcnri.cnri.reston.va.us (Roger E. Masse) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 14:34:01 -0500 Subject: [PYTHON DB-SIG] Update... In-Reply-To: <9603011848.AA26814@acdc.eeel.nist.gov> References: <9603011630.AA2510@phoenix.cminds.com> <9603011848.AA26814@acdc.eeel.nist.gov> Message-ID: <199603011934.OAA11047@knowbot.Reston.Va.US> Michael McLay writes: > Paul Everitt writes: > > I have a question about the db-sig's purpose: should we also be the forum for > > developing an ILU interface for data access? > > Wasn't the original focus to be on table based databases such as SQL? > Perhaps the focus should remain on that topic until the API is > finished and then move on to distributed objects. > Why wait if others are interested in getting the ball rolling in new areas? Regards, Roger E. Masse, Systems Engineer Corporation for National Research Initiatives 1895 Preston White Drive, Suite 100 Reston, Virginia, USA 22091 Internet: rmasse@CNRI.Reston.VA.US (MIME/NeXTmail OK) ================= DB-SIG - SIG on Tabular Databases in Python send messages to: db-sig@python.org administrivia to: db-sig-request@python.org ================= From mclay@eeel.nist.gov Fri Mar 1 19:58:44 1996 From: mclay@eeel.nist.gov (Michael McLay) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 96 14:58:44 EST Subject: [PYTHON DB-SIG] Update... In-Reply-To: <199603011934.OAA11047@knowbot.Reston.Va.US> References: <9603011630.AA2510@phoenix.cminds.com> <9603011848.AA26814@acdc.eeel.nist.gov> <199603011934.OAA11047@knowbot.Reston.Va.US> Message-ID: <9603011958.AA26846@acdc.eeel.nist.gov> Roger E. Masse writes: > Michael McLay writes: > > Paul Everitt writes: > > > I have a question about the db-sig's purpose: should we also be the forum for > > > developing an ILU interface for data access? > > > > Wasn't the original focus to be on table based databases such as SQL? > > Perhaps the focus should remain on that topic until the API is > > finished and then move on to distributed objects. > > > Why wait if others are interested in getting the ball rolling in new areas? I don't have strong feelings on this topic. I was just reporting on what I recalled the group had decided at the workshop. There could be a problem if the group becomes defocused and stop making progress on the table database standard. Also, ILU is just a remote data access tool. There isn't a database associated with the technology, so does it make sense to discuss it in this group? The WWW Consortium is discussing the use of ILU as the next generation HTTP. Perhaps this discussion should also include the web-sig@python.org, or possibly it should be moved to that sig. Michael ================= DB-SIG - SIG on Tabular Databases in Python send messages to: db-sig@python.org administrivia to: db-sig-request@python.org ================= From greg_stein@eshop.com Fri Mar 1 21:43:00 1996 From: greg_stein@eshop.com (Greg Stein) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 13:43:00 -0800 Subject: [PYTHON DB-SIG] Update... Message-ID: At 2:58 PM 3/1/96, Michael McLay wrote: >Roger E. Masse writes: >> Michael McLay writes: >> > Paul Everitt writes: >> > > I have a question about the db-sig's purpose: should we also be the >>forum for >> > > developing an ILU interface for data access? >> > >> > Wasn't the original focus to be on table based databases such as SQL? >> > Perhaps the focus should remain on that topic until the API is >> > finished and then move on to distributed objects. We have designed an API at this point. People seem to be okay with it (it certainly hasn't gotten any negative feedback so far). Why not have a specification for it in ILU, too? Makes total sense to me. >a problem if the group becomes defocused and stop making progress on >the table database standard. Also, ILU is just a remote data access >tool. There isn't a database associated with the technology, so does >it make sense to discuss it in this group? The WWW Consortium ILU is a remote method call system, not data access. In any case, if you want to look at it as data access, then it could be in this group. In any case, having a standard remote database access scheme isn't a bad thing. >is discussing the use of ILU as the next generation HTTP. Perhaps >this discussion should also include the web-sig@python.org, or >possibly it should be moved to that sig. ILU as it pertains to use in conjunction with web systems makes sense for that group. ILU as it pertains to database access makes sense here. ILU can't really be categorized as one or the other -- I'm sure you realize that it has many applications. Greg Stein, eShop Inc. greg_stein@eshop.com ================= DB-SIG - SIG on Tabular Databases in Python send messages to: db-sig@python.org administrivia to: db-sig-request@python.org ================= From greg_stein@eshop.com Sat Mar 2 00:51:52 1996 From: greg_stein@eshop.com (Greg Stein) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 16:51:52 -0800 Subject: [PYTHON DB-SIG] Update... Message-ID: At 11:28 AM 3/1/96, Paul Everitt/Digital Creations wrote: >I have a question about the db-sig's purpose: should we also be the forum for >developing an ILU interface for data access? All the other stuff aside.. :-) How is the ISL for the API coming along? You had said a while ago that you were going to look into it. Any progress? Greg Stein, eShop Inc. greg_stein@eshop.com ================= DB-SIG - SIG on Tabular Databases in Python send messages to: db-sig@python.org administrivia to: db-sig-request@python.org ================= From greg_stein@eshop.com Sat Mar 2 00:51:52 1996 From: greg_stein@eshop.com (Greg Stein) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 16:51:52 -0800 Subject: [PYTHON DB-SIG] Update... Message-ID: At 11:28 AM 3/1/96, Paul Everitt/Digital Creations wrote: >I have a question about the db-sig's purpose: should we also be the forum for >developing an ILU interface for data access? All the other stuff aside.. :-) How is the ISL for the API coming along? You had said a while ago that you were going to look into it. Any progress? Greg Stein, eShop Inc. greg_stein@eshop.com ================= DB-SIG - SIG on Tabular Databases in Python send messages to: db-sig@python.org administrivia to: db-sig-request@python.org ================= From guido@CNRI.Reston.VA.US Wed Mar 6 17:19:30 1996 From: guido@CNRI.Reston.VA.US (Guido van Rossum) Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 12:19:30 -0500 Subject: [PYTHON DB-SIG] sybase module Message-ID: <199603061719.MAA21857@monty> I received a changed Sybase module from Thomas Palmer, with the request to review it. Unfortunately I can't -- no sybase here. Anyone interested? Or should I just put it on the contrib ftp site? --Guido van Rossum URL: ================= DB-SIG - SIG on Tabular Databases in Python send messages to: db-sig@python.org administrivia to: db-sig-request@python.org ================= From pjg@MIT.EDU Thu Mar 7 03:10:27 1996 From: pjg@MIT.EDU (pjg@MIT.EDU) Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 22:10:27 EST Subject: [PYTHON DB-SIG] Forms package? Message-ID: <9603070310.AA08858@carbonara.MIT.EDU> Hi folks. I've been reading this list for a while, but have never posted, so greetings to everyone. Does anyone know if work is under way to create a gui form builder for Python/ SQL, perhaps as a part of the DB-sig? If not, does anyone know of any freely available (X-windows or other) form builder? I suppose I'm looking for an equivalent to PowerBuilder, though I have never used this. In particular I would like to be able to graphically drag fields to lay out forms, possibly store the forms in a table, and do some basic event correlation, etc. Thanks for any information anyone might have, Peter Godman pjg@mit.edu ================= DB-SIG - SIG on Tabular Databases in Python send messages to: db-sig@python.org administrivia to: db-sig-request@python.org ================= From greg_stein@eshop.com Thu Mar 7 03:28:57 1996 From: greg_stein@eshop.com (Greg Stein) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 19:28:57 -0800 Subject: [PYTHON DB-SIG] Forms package? Message-ID: At 10:10 PM 3/6/96, pjg@MIT.EDU wrote: >Does anyone know if work is under way to create a gui form builder for >Python/ SQL, perhaps as a part of the DB-sig? > >If not, does anyone know of any freely available (X-windows or other) >form builder? I suppose I'm looking for an equivalent to >PowerBuilder, though I have never used this. In particular I would >like to be able to graphically drag fields to lay out forms, possibly >store the forms in a table, and do some basic event correlation, etc. I haven't heard of any work along this direction so far. Greg Stein, eShop Inc. greg_stein@eshop.com ================= DB-SIG - SIG on Tabular Databases in Python send messages to: db-sig@python.org administrivia to: db-sig-request@python.org ================= From fredrik_lundh@ivab.se Thu Mar 7 06:42:05 1996 From: fredrik_lundh@ivab.se (Fredrik Lundh) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 07:42:05 +0100 Subject: [PYTHON DB-SIG] Forms package? In-Reply-To: <9603070310.AA08858@carbonara.MIT.EDU> (pjg@MIT.EDU) Message-ID: <9603070642.AA21340@arnold.image.ivab.se> > Does anyone know if work is under way to create a gui form builder for > Python/ SQL, perhaps as a part of the DB-sig? Join the gui-sig and/or the pythonwin-sig (if Windows is among your target platforms). There's where all the GUI related work is taking place. The wxPython GUI system (for Motif, Windows and more) includes a dialogue editor, for example. /F ================= DB-SIG - SIG on Tabular Databases in Python send messages to: db-sig@python.org administrivia to: db-sig-request@python.org ================= From mpoinot@jupiter.matra-com.fr Thu Mar 7 08:10:44 1996 From: mpoinot@jupiter.matra-com.fr (POINOT Marc) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 08:10:44 GMT Subject: [PYTHON DB-SIG] Forms package? Message-ID: <9603070810.AA16010@matra-com.fr> At 22:10 06/03/1996 EST, pjg@MIT.EDU wrote: > >Hi folks. I've been reading this list for a while, but have never posted, >so greetings to everyone. > >Does anyone know if work is under way to create a gui form builder for >Python/ SQL, perhaps as a part of the DB-sig? > We haven't got a real form package. However, we have a WPY class which is a 'table output formatter' (hum...). This class can display a table (e.g. a RDBMS one, retrieved from a SQL query) and then to fit its display: - Rotate/Swap columns - Delete column (on display !) - Retitle columns - Set output format (date, integer, left/center/right string, etc...) - Save/Restore a previously defined format - Call a user defined action on a selected row If you are interested in we can post you, this class is 90% implemented above WPY which can run on both TK (X11) and MFC (Windows). Marcvs [alias And if someone has an answer to your request, please let us know] ---------------------------------------------------------- POINOT Marc alias : marcvs MATRA Communication phone : +33.1.34.60.76.71 DRCE/DDV BA58 fax : +33.1.34.60.79.61 Rue J.-P. Timbaud BP26 lat : 48'48N 78392 Bois d'Arcy long : 02'01E FRANCE email : mpoinot@matra-com.fr ---------------------------------------------------------- ================= DB-SIG - SIG on Tabular Databases in Python send messages to: db-sig@python.org administrivia to: db-sig-request@python.org ================= From klm@CNRI.Reston.VA.US Thu Mar 7 16:38:57 1996 From: klm@CNRI.Reston.VA.US (Ken Manheimer) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 11:38:57 -0500 Subject: [PYTHON DB-SIG] sybase module In-Reply-To: <199603061719.MAA21857@monty> References: <199603061719.MAA21857@monty> Message-ID: <9603071638.AA11303@glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> Guido van Rossum writes: > I received a changed Sybase module from Thomas Palmer, with the > request to review it. Unfortunately I can't -- no sybase here. > Anyone interested? Or should I just put it on the contrib ftp site? I've installed this new version of the sybase module in the python.org contributed-softare ftp stuff, as: (There is a corresponding sybasemodule.README file, with Thomas' message describing what he was sending to guido.) I left John Redford's previous version of sybasemodule.c as sybasemodule.c-prev, but would like to establish that the new version is viable. Is there anyone out there who can give it a test run? Please let me know if you do give it a try, so we can verify that the old version can be retired... |/en /V\anheimer klm@cnri.reston.va.us 703 620-8990 x268 |\ (orporation for National Research |nitiatives 1895 Preston White Drive, Suite 100 Reston, VA 22091 ================= DB-SIG - SIG on Tabular Databases in Python send messages to: db-sig@python.org administrivia to: db-sig-request@python.org =================