[Distutils] Weird PyPI Behavior
jim at zope.com
Thu Jun 29 00:27:11 CEST 2006
On Jun 28, 2006, at 6:09 PM, Phillip J. Eby wrote:
> At 05:42 PM 6/28/2006 -0400, Jim Fulton wrote:
>> If I want people to be able to download it, I have to upload it
> Not necessarily. If you have a pure-Python package, and your
> target audience has Subversion, you can provide a URL on PyPI that
> always obtains the most recent possible development snapshot. For
> example, "easy_install setuptools==dev" will check out the
> setuptools trunk and install an egg from it, properly tagged as a
> development release with the subversion revision. "easy_install
> setuptools==dev06" will check out the head of the 0.6 maintenance
The docs are rather unclear how to to set this up. In any case, it
intent to have people track subversion
> Of course, if you want to provide *built* daily snapshots, then
> this doesn't help you.
Or to do daily builds.
>> I have two choices, upload it to pypi, or create my own download
>> area. I would do one or the other, not both. It seems confusing, to
>> me and to consumers to have two download areas, my own and pypi's.
>> I'd rather use PyPi's because it's integration with setup.py is so
>> OTOH, if it is considered bad form to upload dev releases to PyPi, I
>> can just write
>> helper scripts to upload somewhere else.
> I don't know if there's a consensus that it's bad form. I do think
> that it would quickly become annoying to readers of Planet Python
> or even just the PyPI RSS feed if every Zope project was churning
> out snapshots of every SVN checkin, every day. :)
I didn't realize that this information was being broadcast. I
imagine I am
unintentionally annoying people with all of my experiments. :(
It isn't my intention to provide daily builds. I just happen wanted
quick and dirty releases while stuff is new. These are like alpha
release, but I'm
leveraging the revision tagging to automate generation of release
> As it is, there are lots of projects that churn their PyPI releases
> more often than I'd prefer to see going by, but ah well.
> Moderation in all things is best, I suppose. :)
> I won't say you *should* do one thing or the other, but I will note
> that the "rotate" command of setuptools is meant to help clean up
> directories containing automated nightly builds or svn snapshots.
> So, if you have servers whose job it is to do continuous builds,
> they can do stuff like "bdist_egg -b /output-dir rotate -k5 -m.egg -
> d /output-dir" to put the built egg in /output-dir and keep the 5
> newest eggs. Several projects can safely share the same output
> directory, and the output directory doesn't need to be served by
> anything fancy; see e.g. http://peak.telecommunity.com/snapshots/
> for an example of such a directory.
That's not what I'm up to. :)
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