[Distutils] "Python Package Management Sucks"

Rick Warner rwarner at snaplogic.org
Tue Sep 23 23:44:29 CEST 2008

Jeff Younker wrote:
> I have to say, as a developer, and a system administrator, I like 
> setuptools.   It does
> what I need.  Could it be better?  Sure.  For what I use python for on 
> a day-to-day
> basis it makes my life a thousand times better than it was before 
> setuptools.  Nothing
> ruins your day more than spending *hours* tracing down package 
> dependencies
> just to get the *one* package you need to allow you to perform some 
> crucial task.
> It's even worse when you have to do it on multiple architectures.
> Perl's package location and installation system (CPAN) is one of the 
> primary facts
> contributing to its success.   Perl is a pig.  It's a charming pig 
> that can do lots of tricks,
> but a pig none the less.  What makes it shine is CPAN. And here's the 
> catch:  CPAN
> isn't really any better than setuptools.  It's got warts and nuts all 
> over the place, but
> it works.

And CPAN has some HUGE advantages over setuptools: it is designed as a 
repository, and it is replicated.   Which means it is dependable.  
Anyone who suffered through the multiple outages of PyPI (which in not 
replicated) over the past year or so, or the ongoing outages of the many 
repositories across the web to which PyPI directs users/processes, can 
understand why this is important.

 - rick

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