[Distutils] "Python Package Management Sucks"
jim at zope.com
Wed Sep 24 00:20:36 CEST 2008
On Sep 23, 2008, at 5:44 PM, Rick Warner wrote:
> Jeff Younker wrote:
>> I have to say, as a developer, and a system administrator, I like
>> setuptools. It does
>> what I need. Could it be better? Sure. For what I use python for
>> on a day-to-day
>> basis it makes my life a thousand times better than it was before
>> setuptools. Nothing
>> ruins your day more than spending *hours* tracing down package
>> just to get the *one* package you need to allow you to perform some
>> crucial task.
>> It's even worse when you have to do it on multiple architectures.
>> Perl's package location and installation system (CPAN) is one of
>> the primary facts
>> contributing to its success. Perl is a pig. It's a charming pig
>> that can do lots of tricks,
>> but a pig none the less. What makes it shine is CPAN. And here's
>> the catch: CPAN
>> isn't really any better than setuptools. It's got warts and nuts
>> all over the place, but
>> it works.
> And CPAN has some HUGE advantages over setuptools: it is designed as
> a repository, and it is replicated. Which means it is dependable.
> Anyone who suffered through the multiple outages of PyPI (which in
> not replicated) over the past year or so, or the ongoing outages of
> the many repositories across the web to which PyPI directs users/
> processes, can understand why this is important.
Actually, PyPI is replicated. See, for example, http://download.zope.org/simple/
It may be that some of the mirrors should be better advertised.
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