[Distutils] Distribute and zc.buildout + bootstraping file names + release/branches roadmap

Jim Fulton jim at zope.com
Tue Aug 4 23:01:27 CEST 2009

I'll be surprised if all that's needed to make buildout work with
Distribute is a new bootstrap script.

Note that my long term plan is to remove setuptools (or distribute) as
a dependency of buildout, although I don't know when I'll have time to
get to that.


On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Tarek Ziadé<ziade.tarek at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> I am working on the last bits to be able to release 0.6
> 1/ Distribute and zc.buildout
> I started to work on the last bootstraping problem we have : make sure
> zc.buildout users can use it.
> I've uploaded at http://nightly.ziade.org/ a "bootstrap.py" file that
> is a patched version of zc.buildout's bootstrap.py. This version makes
> sure Distribute is installed
> and activated in a buildout environment. It's also in the repo, in the
> buildout directory.
> Again, this requires a lot of real-world testing before we can ship
> 0.6. I've started to test various combinations on my side, but as I
> did for the previous bootstraping
> script, I wouldn't mind having some feedback of various people on this.
> If you use zc.buildout, you can try it by replacing the bootstrap.py
> file that comes with your buildout with the one I work on, then
> a/ add "distribute" to the required eggs in your buildout cfg file
> b/ run or re-run the bootstrap:
> $ wget http://nightly.ziade.org/bootstrap.py
> $ python bootstrap.py
> If it worked, your buildout should build and work just fine, and the
> scripts located in bin/ should have their sys.path augmented with
> the distribute egg. Last, the setuptools egg is faked and you wil
> notice that it's empty. This has to be done so zc.buildout and any
> software
> out there that has a hardcoded dependency on setuptools thinks it's present.
> This is reversible, by running the original bootstrap and removing the
> egg dependency added in the cfg file.
> Please let me know if you try and get in any trouble. I was able to
> run a plone buildout on my side with no problems.
> 2/ bootstraping file names
> To avoid any confusion, I've changed distribute's bootstrap file name.
> So we will have:
> - ez_setup.py = setuptools bootstrap file
> - bootstraping.py = distribute bootstrap file
> - bootstrap.py = zc.buildout bootstrap file
> If you think "bootstraping" is a silly name, or have a better
> proposition, please let me know.
> 3/ release/branches roadmap
> I'll probably release 0.6 before the end of this week and I expect
> pushing a 0.6.1 one if we find big
> issues with the bootstraping we didn't see before, when the release goes live.
> As soon as 0.6 is tagged, I'll create a 0.6 branch for its maintenance
> and we will be able to
> work on 0.7 on the default branch, including the Python 3 work. Other
> Py3k remaning branches
> will be removed/stripped.  I think this is a simpler approach.
> The 0.7 release will get ridd of the bootstraps script and create
> several distributions, so a
> massive refactoring is expected. I don't know if this will make it
> harder for py3k work, Lennart, Ronald ?
> Cheers
> Tarek
> --
> Tarek Ziadé | http://ziade.org
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Jim Fulton

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