[Distutils] [Python Language Summit] Distutils / Packaging survey

Barry Warsaw barry at python.org
Thu Jan 29 18:20:22 CET 2009


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On Jan 29, 2009, at 12:17 PM, Tres Seaver wrote:

> Barry Warsaw wrote:
>> On Jan 29, 2009, at 8:57 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote:
>>
>>> Le mercredi 28 janvier 2009 à 08:07 -0500, Barry Warsaw a écrit :
>>>> I'd like to make a radical suggestion: upstream authors should  
>>>> never
>>>> have to worry about building distribution blobs.
>>> This is just silly. You dont have to worry about the distributions
>>> internals, and what is specific to each package format, but the very
>>> idea of developing without any kind of knowledge about how the
>>> software
>>> will integrate on a system is a guaranteed recipe for a development
>>> disaster.
>>
>> That's not what I'm saying.  What I'm really saying is that I don't
>> want to have to run 5 different setup.py commands every time I do a
>> release in order to upload all the possible distribution formats that
>> my users may want.
>
> I would argue that the upstream developer should (almost) never be
> uploading anything but a metadata-rich sdist:  except for packages  
> with
> C extensions, nobody really needs anything else for "library"  
> packages,
> and it's really only the Windows folks who can't build those binaries
> for themselves.
>
> People distributing applications might want to provide installers, I
> guess, for the command-line challenged.
>
> Otherwise, if we provided enough metadata in the sdist, packagers can
> build the other formats (.deb, .rpm, etc.) for us, assuming that we  
> can
> solve the "resource file" problem.

+1-enthusiastical-ly y'rs,
Barry

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