[Distutils] Fork mess

[Andreas Jung]

On 19.07.09 22:08, P.J. Eby wrote:

> > At 12:50 PM 7/19/2009 -0700, Sridhar Ratnakumar wrote:
>   
>> >> On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:13:25 -0700, Lennart Regebro <regebro at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>>     
>>> >>> 2009/7/19 P.J. Eby <pje at telecommunity.com>:
>>>       
>>>> >>>> I'm actually kind of hoping that if I make Discovery nice enough,
>>>> >>>> somebody
>>>> >>>> else will refactor setuptools to use it.  ;-)  (Or just replace
>>>> >>>> setuptools
>>>> >>>> with something better.)
>>>>         
>>> >>> We hope that too. But we don't think Discovery will be nice enough if
>>> >>> only you work on it. That is after all the greatness of open source:
>>> >>> It enables people from all around the world cooperate to make
>>> >>> something much greater than each one can create by himself. We can
>>> >>> sure use your experience, insight and help. And you can use our work
>>> >>> time. Discovery can become way greater if we work together instead of
>>> >>> each by ourself.
>>>       
>> >>
>> >> +1
>> >>
>> >> I'm already sensing some vague inconvenience .. distutils, setuptools,
>> >> Distribute, Discovery??? Too much for a language that boasts about
>> >> having
>> >> only one obvious way to do it.
>> >>
>> >> Is it not sensible to combine the efforts put into Distribute and
>> >> Discovery? Call Discovery 'Distribute 2.0' (future work) while we
>> >> work on
>> >> stabilizing setuptools as Distribute 1.0?
>> >>
>> >> If it was me - I'd certainly do it and that wouldn't jeopardize the
>> >> potential fun involved.
>>     
> >
> > Already, just this bit where strangers on the internet discuss how I
> > should spend my spare time for their benefit is making the whole idea
> > less fun.  If people want to tell me how I should spend my time, they
> > can pay me.  (Otherwise, they can ask nicely, instead of lecturing.)
>   
Nobody cares about how you spend your spare time. The point is that the
maintainer is sitting like a clucking hen on their eggs without
giving them any care and without letting other people care about them.
So we are at the point where the hen must go in order to save the eggs
or it must be shot in order proceed for the sake of the community. The
discussion about a qualified maintainer is just absurd. All people
involved in this issue for bring setuptools forward have a strong record
in managing packages and a deep understanding in the setuptools problem.
Please don't treat highly respected members of the Zope and Plone world
like idiots.

Andreas


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