[Distutils] People want CPAN :-)

Milind Khadilkar zedobject at gmail.com
Sat Nov 7 01:35:04 CET 2009


PyPI + PEP 381 + PEP 381 compliant clients == CPAN
In addition to PyPI, PEP381, PEP381 compliant clients, we need a dash of
changed outlook to get CPAN. The Perl community is --  by hearsay --
oriented sympathetically towards people who are not primarily programmers.
In particular, I have heard scientists and finance persons developing web
applications say this when introduced to python.

But the same people were more satisfied with the python stuff when somebody
helped them through the technicalities.

When someone encounters PyPI for the first time, is it easy to learn about
it from the PyPI page itself? Hopeful clicks on the "tutorial" link brings
up a bewildering  CheeseShop Tutorial, without an explanation of what
CheeseShop is. Reading through the options detailed in the page makes sense
only if you already know about them. Definitely not the material for the
beginner or for the technologically-just-adequate.

By the way, the PyPI tutorial is just an example. The python community,
while excellent in the support it provides to the technically competent,
needs to be more friendly towards mere end-users. The attitude should be
more charitable than "GOD helps them, and only them, who help themselves".

Or, rather than between commuinities, is it actually the difference between
Python and Perl as languages themselves?

Milind Khadilkar

On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 5:16 AM, Tarek Ziadé <ziade.tarek at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 11:53 PM,  <exarkun at twistedmatrix.com> wrote:
> [..]
> >
> > PyPI *does* let you download packages easily, it does let you upload new
> > ones and organize them without having to worry about integrating them
> into
> > existing packages.  So the features of CPAN that are described as
> desirable
> > are already available in PyPI.
> imho,
> PyPI + PEP 381 + PEP 381 compliant clients == CPAN
> Tarek
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