[Distutils] Fwd: The state of PyPI

Mathieu Leduc-Hamel marrakis at gmail.com
Tue Sep 27 15:22:31 CEST 2011

Is there any plan also to work on an updated and better version of
Pypi, I mean, i understand that we need to work on the infrastructure
and make sure it will handle the load.

But i also think that the current codebase of Pypi would need be
updated. Is there any plan refactored in part of this work ? i Suspect
that this is something we'll have to do one day another if we want
continue to integrate things in it, to add feature...

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Tarek Ziadé <ziade.tarek at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Wichert Akkerman <wichert at wiggy.net> wrote:
>> On 09/27/2011 02:51 PM, Tarek Ziadé wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Wichert Akkerman<wichert at wiggy.net>
>>>  wrote:
>>> ..
>>>>> I understand where you're coming from but, ..
>>>>> I think it's saner to rely on proven technology
>>>>> than to invent our own protocol. NIH?
>>>> This also feels like a problem that has already been solved in various
>>>> ways
>>>> by Debian, RedHat, CPAN and others.
>>> Yes, and we've found a way similar to CPAN, with some Python specifics
>>> (PyPI download statistics mainly)
>>> Oh my, we're cycling again.
>>> Nothing personal to you or Jim, but I have a sudden fatigue on
>>> packaging because it seems like people are ignoring what's being done
>>> to complain afterwards about us suffering of some kind of NIH :)
>> It's just that my perspective is that of a simple user. And from my
>> perspective nothing has changed in the last couple of years. Pypi still goes
>> down occasionally, and when that happens many things start breaking. It may
>> very well be that there are things planned or in progress, but until they
>> are both usable and used by standard tools, which for me means buildout and
>> setuptools, they are invisible.
> Fair enough,
> Pip has now the mirroring protocol implemented. I think they want to
> make it a default option for the next major Pip release. IOW, you
> should not suffer for downtimes using pip.
> We'd need to add the same feature in easy_install and zc.buildout.
> But since Pip did it, I think it's possible.
> We have 5 mirrors run by the community
> (http://pypi.python.org/mirrors) and I suspect porting pip's feature
> to zc.buildout and easy_install would take less time than creating a
> <Name your cloud service> app.
> Cheers
> Tarek
>> Wichert.
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