[Distutils] A new script which creates Python 3.3 venvs with Distribute and pip installed in them

Philippe Ombredanne pombredanne at nexb.com
Thu Jan 31 10:05:17 CET 2013

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Vinay Sajip <vinay_sajip at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Python 3.3 includes a script, pyvenv, which is used to create virtual environments.
> However, Distribute and pip are not installed in such environments - because,
> though they are popular, they are third-party packages - not part of Python.
> The Python 3.3 venv machinery allows customisation of virtual environments
> fairly readily. To demonstrate how to do this, and to provide at the same time
> a script which might be useful to people, I've created a script, pyvenvex.py, at
> https://gist.github.com/4673395
> which extends the pyvenv script to not only create virtual environments, but to also install Distribute and pip into them.

Excellent and one step closer to sane package management ....
I wonder if you could not source instead the code that is directly in
the virtualenv.py scripts? it also includes the packed distribute and
pip ....
Meaning that would allow the installation entirely offline (with the
--never-download venv flag)

And btw, why pip is not part of the standard Python?  This is nowadays
officially recommended on Pypi as the tool to use to install
Per http://pypi.python.org/pypi
"Get Packages: To use a package from this index either "pip install
package" (get pip) or download, unpack and "python setup.py install"

This does not make sense to me: I know about some of the controversies
.... but this is rather  inconsistent to recommend using a tool and
not supporting it directly.

Philippe Ombredanne

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