[Distutils] Current status of PEP 439 (pip boostrapping)

[Donald Stufft]

On Jul 13, 2013, at 11:05 AM, Tres Seaver <tseaver at palladion.com> wrote:

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> On 07/13/2013 08:25 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> > I think we need to flip the dependencies so that pip as the installer
> > has all the essential code for installation from PyPI and then
> > setuptools and distlib depend on that pip infrastructure. No need to
> > add anything to the standard library prematurely when we can add it to
> > pip instead.
> 
> - -1.  That would effectively mean inlining the bulk of setuptools' code
> into pip (which is just a UI / policy shim over it).  You might as well
> just have your bootstrapper install both pip and setuptools and be done
> 
> Unless distlib (or something like it) lands in the stdlib with enough
> features to support a setuptools-less pip, of course.
> 
> At-which-point-the-State-will-wither-away'ly,
> 
> 
> Tres.
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I was planning on doing this to pip anyways. pip should not have any dependencies setuptools or otherwise. So regardless of what happens with this PEP I want pip to be inlining setuptools and providing the code to make that transparent during install. This would mean that for people who are _just_ installing packages they don't need setuptools installed.

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