[Distutils] Q about best practices now (or near future)

Vinay Sajip vinay_sajip at yahoo.co.uk
Thu Jul 18 00:30:52 CEST 2013

Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan <at> gmail.com> writes:

> It's good that distil exists as a proof of concept, but the ship has sailed 
on the default language level installer: it will be pip.

I understand that it's your call as the packaging czar, but was there any 
discussion about this before the decision was made? Any pros and cons of 
different approaches weighed up? Python 3.4 beta is still 5-6 months away. 
Call me naive, but I would normally have expected a PEP on the bundling of pip 
to be produced by an interested party/champion, then that people would discuss 
and refine the PEP on the mailing list, and *then* a pronouncement would be 
made. This is what PEP 1 describes as the PEP process. Instead, it seems a 
decision has already been made, and now an author/champion for a PEP is being 
sought ex post facto. With all due respect, this seems back to front - so it 
would be good to have a better understanding of the factors that went into the 
decision, including the timing of it. Can you shed some light on this?

Thanks and regards,

Vinay Sajip

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