[Distutils] a plea for backward-compatibility / smooth transitions (was: Re: Migrating Hashes from MD5 to SHA256)

Donald Stufft donald at stufft.io
Mon Jul 29 16:51:42 CEST 2013

On Jul 29, 2013, at 5:38 AM, holger krekel <holger at merlinux.eu> wrote:

> There are >1000 times more people using python packaging tools than
> there are ones following the recent distutils-sig/Donald/Nick verdicts
> or tool release notes.  And heck, even for me being quite involved in all
> this stuff, having written a related PEP, it's really hard to see what's
> coming and to prevent breakage for my tools's/projects's users.
> Therefore, to be honest, at this point i am almost afraid of what is
> released/deployed next in PyPI/Installer land.  I'd rather like to 
> get into a "can't wait to get the next release" mode.

I'd also like to point out this. I think you got bitten by one particular backward
incompatibility and are "Once bitten twice shy". I had a number people asking
me near every day how long until pip 1.4 was coming out because they were
excited for the new changes including the improved pre-release handling.

I've personally gotten or seen more complaints over the naming of a variable
in the config file then I have over any changes we've made. The runner up
to that is the fallout from switching to requiring verified SSL.

Donald Stufft
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