[Distutils] PEP DRAFT - Inclusion of pip bootstrap in Python installation

Richard Jones richard at python.org
Tue Mar 19 20:36:09 CET 2013

On 19 March 2013 11:16, PJ Eby <pje at telecommunity.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Richard Jones <richard at python.org> wrote:
>> The Fedora variant of Linux has had a separate program called "pip" (a Perl
>> package installer) available for install for some time. The current Python "pip"
>> program is installed as "pip-python". It is hoped that the Fedora community will
>> resolve this issue by renaming the Perl installer.
> A modest suggestion: renaming pip to "pypi" (Python Package Installer)
> will address this and other issues, especially if the 'pypi' command
> grows register/publish functions as well.

We did discuss using a name other than pip - the main reason being
that Fedora Linux has the Perl "pip" tool. We are hoping that will be
resolved in our favour. There's just too much momentum in the
community behind the "pip" name. If it does not work out then we may
have to revisit the issue. If we do then it'd probably be "pyinstall"
or something equally elegant <0.5 wink>

> (I suppose there is a small possibility of confusion between the tool
> and the site, but then again, if you look at e.g. PHP's pear, the
> command line tools and repository have the same name.  And Perl has a
> "cpan shell" for accessing CPAN, etc.  I don't recall anybody in those
> communities being confused by those distinctions.)

Interestingly when I asked my Perl-using friends about "pip" the Perl
tool, they indicated that these days they use "cpanm" by preference.
Well, first they said "pip - isn't that the Python installer?" :-)


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