[Distutils] setuptools 8 changes are great, but ...

[Robert Collins]

We're currently pinned -
http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-December/052985.html
- we tried a fix, it broke things more, so we rolled it back and are
now working on a new one - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141667/ -
which will simply *stop including version data* in our version
strings. As setuptools 7 and 8 are mutually incompatible, we can
either support this feature in 8 and break setuptools 7 use, or we can
support it in 7, and break installs on 8.

I haven't tracked *all* the details of this (I'm currently away from
home dealing with more estate cleanup :( ) - see the #openstack-infra
channel logs over the last 48hr or so for more details.

-Rob

On 16 December 2014 at 07:50, Donald Stufft <donald at stufft.io> wrote:
>
>> On Dec 15, 2014, at 1:41 PM, Robert Collins <robertc at robertcollins.net> wrote:
>>
>> +1 - I think thats a great idea. We've had to pin < setuptools 8 in
>> the OpenStack ecosystem too.
>
> As far as I’m aware, Openstack is just about ready to unpin setuptools. I believe
> the only thing holding it back is a pbr change.
>
>>
>> It would have been nice to offer some period of time where the cases
>> which were going to change would have warned. I realise thats
>> non-trivial, but this is systemic infrastructure at the core of our
>> dependency graph - everything that expresses requirements is affected.
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>> On 16 December 2014 at 07:27, Jim Fulton <jim at zope.com> wrote:
>>> I think the changes in version management in setuptools 8 are a great
>>> step forward,
>>> but I think the transition is going to hurt a lot.
>>>
>>> For buildout, I'm thinking of of releasing 2.3.1 that reverts the
>>> changes in 2.3 and
>>> adds a requirement for setuptools <8 to give more time to respond to
>>> these  changes.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
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>>
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