[Distutils] Need for respect

M.-A. Lemburg mal at egenix.com
Wed May 14 23:33:34 CEST 2014


On 14.05.2014 22:56, Donald Stufft wrote:
> On my phone so I can't respond to everything here but I just want to say I don't think a discussion where we can't challenge each other's conclusions isn't going to go anywhere. Hopefully we are adults and can handle disagreement. 

There's nothing wrong with disagreeing on conclusions and
agreeing on this disagreement, but trying to shut someone down is
not the right way forward.

What I'm trying to get back into the discussion is the view on
PyPI as a community resource, which does not only need to address
the needs of users of installers, but also those of developers who
register their packages with it and make the whole thing come to
life.

PyPI is used by people through the browser, it's used by people
with installer tools such as pip, easy_install, zc.buildout, conda, etc.
and it's used by developers using distutils, setuptools and
other build tools that can talk to the PyPI API.

All of these people have needs and requirements, so we need to
find ways to make most of them happy. In discussions on this list,
I often get the feeling that the package authors are underrepresented,
and that's why I try to add some of package author views to
the discussion and also views as user of other tools than pip.

>> On May 14, 2014, at 4:26 PM, "M.-A. Lemburg" <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
>>
>> Noah, please reread the subject line and the message that started
>> this thread. If we want to have a useful discussion, calling someone's
>> conclusion incorrect is not helpful.

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