[Distutils] Need for respect (was: PEP 438, pip and --allow-external)

[Nick Coghlan]

On 15 May 2014 20:44, "Stefan Krah" <stefan-usenet at bytereef.org> wrote:
>
> Noah Kantrowitz <noah at coderanger.net> wrote:
> > > Coming back to PyPI: Its main purpose is having a central place to
> > > register, search for and find packages. It doesn't matter where the
> > > distribution files are hosted, as long as the installers can find
them.
> >
> > I understand you think that is the purpose of PyPI, but I'm trying to
> > tell you that the people that work on PyPI and pip do not share this
> > opinion, and as such it can be considered incorrect.
>
> If only the opinions of the persons working on PyPI and pip matter, the
> logical consequence would be to remove ensurepip from the tree.

Stefan, I realise you weren't able to attend the language summit in 2013,
but this delegation of authority to distutils-sig is exactly what the PEP 1
process changes and the assignment of myself and Richard Jones as BDFL
delegates that came out of that event was about. python-dev are not the
experts on language level distribution issues for Python - that role
belongs to distutils-sig.

While the opinions of core developers do matter, we're also far from being
representative of the wider Python community (the fact we're far more
likely to be using Linux rather than Windows being one of the key
differences). The current link spidering mechanism has serious and
essentially unsolvable usability issues (for both software publication and
installation), and really needs to be replaced by making a few key
discoverability improvements to the multiple index support instead.

Regards,
Nick.

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> Stefan Krah
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