[Distutils] Making pip and PyPI work with conda packages

Chris Barker chris.barker at noaa.gov
Tue May 19 21:26:55 CEST 2015

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Paul Moore <p.f.moore at gmail.com> wrote:

> > to be the same. I suppose I could deliver the static libs themselves,
> along
> > with the headers, etc, but that does get ugly.
> Hmm, that seems to me to be something of a non-goal. If you publish
> wheels, 99.999% of people should never need to build your software.

I'm not so sure -- with a nice mature package, sure. But with something
under active development, having a low barrier to entry to running the
latest code is really helpful. I suppose I could use a CI system to push a
new version of the binary wheel with every update - maybe that is the way
to go.

I'm 100% in favour of repeatable, automated builds -


>  But we
> don't really need a standard infrastructure for them, you write a
> "setup_build_environment.py" script that ships with your project, run
> it once, and then run python setup.py bdist_wheel. If your build
> dependencies are simple, "setup_build_environment.py" could be short
> (or even non-existent!) or if not it could be many hundreds of lines
> of code. But it's specific to your project.

This entire conversation is about when the build dependencies are NOT
simple :-). And while it may be project specific, commonly used libs are
not project specific, and they are where the time and pain are. So some
shared infrastructure would be nice.

And maybe all that needs to be is a gitHub project with build scripts. But
I had little luck in getting any traction that way. That is, until we had
Anaconda, conda and binstar ---  an infrastructure that provides a way for
folks to collaborate on this kind of ugly package building effort.



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