[Distutils] Migration Path to metadata was: Remove distutils, was: red, green, refactor ...

[Thomas Güttler]

Am 21.10.2015 um 17:05 schrieb Nick Coghlan:
> On 21 October 2015 at 14:55, David Cournapeau <cournape at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Thomas Güttler
>> <guettliml at thomas-guettler.de> wrote:
>>> ok, at the moment setuptools uses distutils.
>>>
>>> Why not melt them together into **one** underwear-pants-module?
>>
>>
>> What do you hope getting from that ? distutils is in the stdlib, so cannot
>> change easily, and even if putting setuptools in the stdlib were possible,
>> you would now need to handle different versions of setuptools for different
>> versions of python.
> 
> It's more useful to go the other direction and vendor a modern version
> of distutils inside setuptools:
> https://bitbucket.org/pypa/setuptools/issues/417/adopt-distutils
> 
> distutils can then optionally be replaced wholesale at runtime, rather
> than having the internals be monkeypatched.
> 
>> On top of this, the goal of lots of efforts around packaging is to allow
>> people to move away from distutils/setuptools, as the underlying design is
>> fundamentally difficult to extend.
> 
> We still need a migration path to modern metadata standards for
> everyone using distutils and setuptools - that's the side of things
> that caused major problems for both distribute and distutils2.

I guess you have a rough migration path in your mind? I guess some
people here are interested.

Regards,
  Thomas Güttler


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