[Distutils] wacky idea about reifying extras

[Nick Coghlan]

On 29 Oct 2015 00:31, "Ralf Gommers" <ralf.gommers at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Brett Cannon <brett at python.org> wrote:
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>> Nathaniel's comment about how this might actually give pip a leg up on
conda also sounds nice to me as I have enough worry about having a fissure
in 1D along the Python 2/3 line, and I'm constantly worried that the
scientific community is going to riot and make it a 2D fissure along Python
2/3, pip/conda axes and split effort, documentation, etc.
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> If it helps you sleep: I'm confident that no one is planning this
particular riot. It takes little work to support pip and conda - the hard
issues are mostly with building, not installing.

Last time I checked "pip in a conda env" was also pretty well behaved, so
conda seems to be settling in fairly well to being a per-user cross
platform alternative to apt, yum/dnf, homebrew, nix, etc, rather than
tackling the same Python specific niche as pip & virtualenv.

> Smaller riots like breaking ``python setup.py install``  recommending
``pip install .`` instead[1] are in the cards though:)

Given the PyPA panel at PyCon US a few years ago ended up being subtitled
"'./setup.py install' must die", I'd be surprised if that provoked a riot.
I guess even if it does, you'll have plenty of folks prepared to help with
crowd control :)

Cheers,
Nick.
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