[Distutils] The mypy package

Guido van Rossum guido at python.org
Fri Apr 15 23:59:00 EDT 2016


Another thing. Is the search index on pypi.python.org no longer being
updated? Searching for mypy-lang still takes you to mypy-lang 0.2.0, even
though 0.3.1 has been released many weeks ago. I just updated the typing
package and searching for that still shows the old versions.

On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 6:10 PM, Guido van Rossum <guido at python.org> wrote:

> Oh well. I wonder if offering money would change the situation.
>
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Richard Jones <richard at python.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Guido,
>>
>> Because this sort of thing has come up a lot in the past, and because
>> I've copped trouble for mishandling it in the past, I took the trouble of
>> writing up a formal description of how I handle these sorts of issues:
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1elum7ENjQb0dLB4ATfYNtnXYVLUzsKacc0VWnHHJb2A/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> I believe Donald follows the same, or a very similar procedure.
>>
>> In short, all that can be done has been done, from my perspective.
>> Someone has published their module, and regardless of any opinion of it, or
>> desire to also use that name, I have to respect that they published first.
>> In the absence of explicit consent from them to do anything, my hands are
>> tied. I've taken unilateral action in the past to my personal detriment.
>>
>> Of course, once I'm no longer a PyPI admin (I look forward to the day so
>> very much) someone else will have to make these decisions.
>>
>>
>>      Richard
>>
>>
>> On 16 April 2016 at 09:29, Guido van Rossum <guido at python.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Brett suggested I ask the kind folks here.
>>>
>>> As you may or may not know, there's an old unmaintained "mypy" package
>>> on PyPI that attracts a fair amount of downloads from people trying to
>>> download mypy the type checker. We then get bug reports and have to explain
>>> in our tracker that they have to use "pip install mypy-lang" instead.
>>>
>>> Query:
>>> https://github.com/python/mypy/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue++dbutils+
>>>
>>> That mypy package was last updated in 2011, and it's a quite forgettable
>>> combination of copied open-source packages and a little bit of glue code
>>> presumably written by the package author. Both Donald and myself have
>>> approached the owner (zsp007 at gmail.com) but not received any response.
>>> Is there a "higher authority" to whom we can appeal this, or are we just
>>> stuck with this situation?
>>>
>>> As Brett wrote part of the problem, though, is the mypy project has 2244
>>> downloads in the last month which shows it's being used and we don't want
>>> to end up in an npm/left_pad situation. (But how many of those downloads
>>> are misguided attempts to install mypy-lang?)
>>>
>>> One possibility, if people aren't happy with me or Jukka taking over
>>> owhership of the old mypy package, would be for someone (not me or Jukka)
>>> to take ownership of that package just so they can update the PyPI home
>>> page for that package with a prominent note telling people looking for
>>> Jukka's type checker to use mypy-lang instead.
>>>
>>> --
>>> --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)
>>>
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>>
>
>
> --
> --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)
>



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