[Distutils] abstract build system PEP update

Nathaniel Smith njs at vorpus.org
Wed Feb 17 16:01:01 EST 2016

On Feb 17, 2016 4:44 AM, "Donald Stufft" <donald at stufft.io> wrote:
> You could say that using twine to handle the uploading is a thing people
> do (and I agree!) but that currently relies on having static metadata
inside of
> the sdist that twine can parse, static metadata that isn't going to exist
> you just simply tarball up a directory on disk.

Ah-ha, this is useful. The reason this hasn't been considered, at least in
my proposal, is that I think this is the first I've heard that there is
anything that cares about what's in an sdist besides setup.py :-).

Is there anything written up on what twine wants from an sdist? Would it
make sense for you to write up a spec on what twine/pypi need and a better
way to represent it than whatever it is distutils does now?

I think both Robert and my proposal basically see their scope as being
strictly restricted to "here's how we want to replace pip-calling-setup.py
with pip-calling-something-else", while keeping everything else the same or
at least delegating any other changes to other PEPs. So we envision that
build system authors will provide some way to package up source into an
sdist, whatever that means; that could be a current-style sdist with
metadata requirements reverse-engineered from twine and setuptools, or it
could be done kind of new and improved sdist that is about to get its own
PEP... either way, it's orthogonal to replacing setup.py.

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