[Distutils] PEP: Build system abstraction for pip/conda etc

Robert Collins robertc at robertcollins.net
Tue Jan 26 22:19:22 EST 2016

Cool - thank you.

Right now it looks like there is one edit (add PATH as a variable folk
can depend on being set) and one undecided (metadata file format).

I've pushed a shim that permits having a setup.py for non-setuptools
projects using solely the abstract interface to
https://pypi.python.org/pypi/setuptools_shim and

It depends on https://github.com/pypa/packaging/pull/50 - the test
suite is hardcoded to locate that in ../packaging at the moment - but
I believe that that will be merging soon, so it should be generally
usable from there on out.

I'd love it if someone put together a flit implementation of the
abstract build system and checked that the shim does let pip work :).
Theory and practice and all that.


On 27 January 2016 at 14:08, Donald Stufft <donald at stufft.io> wrote:
> As many know there has been an effort to get a generalized interface that a build system can implement so that we can break the hard dependency on setuptools that Python packaging currently has. After a lot of deliberation and threads back and forth (as well as video meetings!) I think that the version of the PEP that is currently on the PR in https://github.com/pypa/interoperability-peps/pull/54 looks like it’s generally the right thing to move forward with. I made a few little comments but overall I think it’s there and we’re ready to move forward on trying to get a reference implementation done that can validate the decisions made in that PEP (and then, hopefully finalize the PEP and merge those implementations).
> So many thanks to everyone involved in hammering this out thus far :) I’m nervous but excited about the possibility of making setuptools just another build system.
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