[Distutils] can someone explain why I have started to get these pip failures

[Daniel Holth]

It's from Debian. They had time to break pip, but they don't have time to
fix it again.

On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 12:39 PM Paul Moore <p.f.moore at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 14 July 2016 at 17:23, Robin Becker <robin at reportlab.com> wrote:
> > I used always to build python from source in older ubuntus, but that was
> > because we wanted the latest python 2.x etc etc. Using a local copy
> prevents
> > the os from smashing stuff, but means more work whenever a serious
> upgrade
> > is required.
> >
> > When I run python -mvirtualenv I end up with an environment that has pip
> and
> > setuptools already. Are you saying I should do
> >
> > /usr/bin/python -mvirtualenv --no-pip --no-setuptools myenv
> > myenv/bin/python get_pip.py
> >
> > and then proceed from there? Or is it foolish to rely on the system
> python
> > at all?
> >
> > I haven't seen this problem in ubuntu 14.04, but that may be just luck.
> >
> > I certainly notice some new behaviour ie the system pip seems to want to
> > assert --user whereas it used to fail for lack of rights in installing
> into
> > /usr/lib/python....
>
> Yes, apparently Ubuntu have patched pip to make --user the default.
> I've seen some bug reports caused by this patch, so it's possible that
> it's what is causing you problems here. Unfortunately, as that is an
> Ubuntu patch you'd need to report it to them.
>
> Paul
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