[Distutils] Proposal: "Install and save"

[Alex Grönholm]

pip doesn't yet support pyproject.toml does it?

23.07.2016, 17:43, Daniel Holth kirjoitti:
> Here is my attempt. The SConstruct (like a Makefile) builds the 
> extension. The .toml file gives the static metadata. No need to put 
> the two in the same file.
>
> https://bitbucket.org/dholth/cryptacular/src/tip/SConstruct
>
> https://bitbucket.org/dholth/cryptacular/src/tip/pyproject.toml
>
> On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 10:11 AM Alex Grönholm 
> <alex.gronholm at nextday.fi <mailto:alex.gronholm at nextday.fi>> wrote:
>
>     23.07.2016, 17:04, Thomas Kluyver kirjoitti:
>     > On Sat, Jul 23, 2016, at 02:32 PM, Alex Grönholm wrote:
>     >> I'm -1 on this because requirements.txt is not really the
>     standard way
>     >> to list dependencies.
>     >> In the Python world, setup.py is the equivalent of Node's
>     package.json.
>     >> But as it is
>     >> Python code, it cannot so easily be programmatically modified.
>     > Packaging based on declarative metadata:
>     > http://flit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
>     > </blowing_own_trumpet>
>     >
>     > We have a bit of a divide. Specifying dependencies in setup.py (or
>     > flit.ini, or upcoming pyproject.toml) is the standard for
>     library and
>     > tool packages that are intended to be published on PyPI and
>     installed
>     > with pip. requirements.txt is generally used for applications
>     which will
>     > be distributed or deployed by other means.
>     >
>     > As I understand it, in the Javascript world package.json is used
>     in both
>     > cases. Is that something Python should try to emulate? Is it hard to
>     > achieve given the limitations of setup.py that you pointed out?
>     This topic has been beaten to death. There is no way to cram the
>     complexities of C extension compilation setup into purely declarative
>     metadata. Distutils2 tried and failed. Just look at the setup.py files
>     of some popular projects and imagine all that logic expressed in
>     declarative metadata.
>     > Thomas
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