[Distutils] moving things forward (was: wheel including files it shouldn't)

Nick Coghlan ncoghlan at gmail.com
Sat May 7 09:51:55 EDT 2016


On 7 May 2016 01:55, "Chris Barker" <chris.barker at noaa.gov> wrote:
> So my point is about scope-creep -- if you want the PyPa tools to solve
all these problems, then you are re-inventing conda -- better to simply
adopt conda (or fork it and fix issues that I'm sure are there....)

conda doesn't solve these problems either - it solves the *end user*
problem for data analysts (install the Python library they want to use), by
ignoring the system integrator one (interoperate with the system
integrator's existing platform level package management systems, of which
we all tend to have our own with no plans for consolidation)

That's by design, though - conda was specifically created as a language
independent cross-platform platform, not as a cross-platform plugin
management system for Python runtimes.

For a long time I was convinced the existence of conda and Linux containers
as end user tools meant we wouldn't ever need to solve these problems at
the language runtime layer, but it's since become clear to me that there's
significant value in solving these problems in a way that doesn't care
about how you obtained your Python runtime.

Cheers,
Nick.
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