[Distutils] If you want wheel to be successful, provide a build server.

Nick Coghlan ncoghlan at gmail.com
Thu May 26 01:57:25 EDT 2016


On 26 May 2016 at 01:11, Thomas Güttler <guettliml at thomas-guettler.de> wrote:
>
>
> Am 25.05.2016 um 15:52 schrieb Nick Coghlan:
>>
>> On 25 May 2016 at 17:13, Thomas Güttler <guettliml at thomas-guettler.de>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> If you want wheel to be successful, **provide a build server**.
>>
>>
>> Thomas, aside from that statement being demonstrably untrue (since the
>> wheel format has already proven to be wildly successful, even with
>> developers coping with Linux ABI fragmentation), an attitude of "give
>> me more free stuff, or your project will fail" is not an acceptable
>> tone to adopt on this list.
>>
>> The contributors here are (mainly) volunteers working on
>> infrastructure provided by a public interest charity, not your
>> personal servants to be ordered about as you feel inclined.
>
> You seem to be angry. Why?

Thomas, I am pointing out that your current exhibition of entitled
behaviour across multiple venues (as represented by the specific
sentence I quoted) is problematic. Please stop trying to crack the
whip and generate an artificial sense of urgency - software
publication and distribution is a complex problem, and most of the
current challenges in the PyPI ecosystem stem from an ongoing lack of
funding which requires organisational change moreso than technical
change. While various folks are working on that, it's mostly not a
distutils-sig level problem, but rather a question for the PSF and for
commercial Python redistributors.

If you're looking to provide information, or ask if a particular
solution that seems obvious to you would be feasible in practice, then
do that. The one thing I am asking you to STOP doing is combining your
questions with exaggerated hyperbole that's designed to make
volunteers feel bad.

Regards,
Nick.

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Nick Coghlan   |   ncoghlan at gmail.com   |   Brisbane, Australia


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