[Distutils] What is the official position on distutils?

[Anna Ravenscroft]

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On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 7:02 AM, Steve Dower <steve.dower at python.org> wrote:

> "add it to setuptools first, and then add things to distutils where we
> feel they're sufficiently stable to not need the benefit of the faster
> setuptools update cycle"
>
> I nominate this as the official policy on API changes for distutils, with
> regular maintenance mode policies applying to anything else.
>
> Top-posted from my Windows Phone
> ------------------------------
> From: Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan at gmail.com>
> Sent: ‎9/‎4/‎2016 2:19
> To: Sylvain Corlay <sylvain.corlay at gmail.com>
> Cc: distutils sig <distutils-sig at python.org>
> Subject: Re: [Distutils] What is the official position on distutils?
>
> On 4 September 2016 at 06:44, Sylvain Corlay <sylvain.corlay at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi Brett,
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 8:05 PM, Brett Cannon <brett at python.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> If Jason is up for the responsibility that seems like a reasonable
> >> approach to take. It also helps test out features in setuptools first
> before
> >> upstreaming it.
> >>
> >
> > How do you see `has_flag` get into setuptools? By monkey-patching
> distutils'
> > ccompiler to have it aside of `has_function` when setuptools is imported?
> >
> > I find really weird the idea of adding this in a convoluted fashion
> instead
> > of allowing incremental improvement of distutils.
>
> The change to distutils would still be a plain patch to distutils, it
> would just be accepted at the API design level in setuptools first.
>
> The problem you're running into right now isn't a technical one - it's
> that there isn't anyone that currently feels like they have sufficient
> design authority over the distutils API to accept your proposal, hence
> Brett starting this thread to address that underlying recurring
> question, rather than the specifics of your change.
>
> Jason *definitely* has that design authority over setuptools though,
> and will be tasked with making any API additions available on older
> versions of Python via setuptools regardless of what policy we adopt
> for distutils maintenance, so if he's amenable to the idea, it makes
> sense to me to invert the order we ask those questions: add it to
> setuptools first, and then add things to distutils where we feel
> they're sufficiently stable to not need the benefit of the faster
> setuptools update cycle.
>
> Cheers,
> Nick.
>
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cordially,
Anna
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