[Distutils] PEP 517: Bootstrapping setuptools

[Jim Fulton]

Oh, gawd. From now on, someone will have to say buildout 3 times before I
appear.

On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 2:06 PM, xoviat <xoviat at gmail.com> wrote:

> So are we going for a "primarily isolation" approach then where builds are
> only isolated on the first level, but subsequent levels share the same
> build environment?
>

I'm a huge fan of isolation, but isolation seems to me to be orthogonal to
this discussion.

I'm done with this thread. :)

Jim


>
> 2017-08-22 10:23 GMT-05:00 Jim Fulton <jim at jimfulton.info>:
>
>> I didn't mention (nor do I recall anyone mentioning) venvs.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Matt Joyce <matt at nycresistor.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> venvs within venvs... terrifying concept.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Jim Fulton <jim at jimfulton.info> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 9:23 AM, Daniel Holth <dholth at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Isn't this a special case of needing . on sys.path when building a
>>>>> package? Then the same version of setuptools that is being packaged builds
>>>>> itself.
>>>>>
>>>> No. The issue for us it wasn't setuptools itself, but it's dependencies
>>>> and those dependencies conflicted with dependencies of of packages we were
>>>> installing *and* those packages importing these dependences (indirectly) in
>>>> their setup scripts.  Setup scripts that import the thing they're about to
>>>> install, generally to get the version :(, is something I'd love to see go
>>>> away.
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>>
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