[docs] [issue28672] Explain in the "Data Model" document why arguments to __init__ are ok when __new__ is not defined

João Sebastião de Oliveira Bueno report at bugs.python.org
Sat Nov 12 00:50:12 EST 2016


New submission from João Sebastião de Oliveira Bueno:

There is an specific Python behavior on object instantiation that is "expected" but not explicit, even for avanced users:

When a custom class defines `__init__` with extra parameters, but do not overrides `__new__`, it simply works. But if `__new__`is defined it has to match `__init__`s signature.

This behavior is not documented anywhere.

I could found this issue was discussed in this thread earlier this year, starting with this e-mail:
https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2016-March/704013.html

I propose the following paragraph from a follow up e-mail by "eryksun at gmail.com" to be added to the description of "__new__" in the Data Model documentation page:

"""

[The implementation] knows whether a type overrides the __new__ or
__init__ methods. You're expected to consume additional arguments in
this case. However, excess arguments are ignored in object.__new__ if
a type overrides __init__ without overriding __new__ (i.e. your second
example). Excess arguments are also ignored in object.__init__ if a
type overrides __new__ without overriding __init__.
"""
(Source: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2016-March/704024.html)

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assignee: docs at python
components: Documentation
messages: 280633
nosy: João.Sebastião.de.Oliveira.Bueno, docs at python
priority: normal
severity: normal
status: open
title: Explain in the "Data Model" document why arguments to __init__ are ok when __new__ is not defined
type: enhancement
versions: Python 3.6

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