[Python Edinburgh] Talks!
Bald, Glenn
Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk
Wed Sep 3 13:14:44 CEST 2014
Hi Becky, Everyone
I also agree with what Ian said when I turned up to the pub it felt like
gate crashing a someone elses party despite most people going out of
there way to be welcoming. Don't get me wrong I think the pub meetups
are a good idea, but there is also a market for an event that is perhaps
more formal and welcomes newcomers and women on an equal footing?
I think Ian asks an interesting question. So I sort of repeat in my own
words. Are you on this mailing list and would like to go to the meetup
but not that comfortable trying to make conversation with a large group
you don't know(yet), especially if you think they have more experience?
Have you been just once?
I was not intending to be critical of pyLadies. It's good that that you
organised such a group. It's the need to have the group in the 1st place
that is what I find alien. At the one meetup I went to it was impossible
not to notice it was a very male dominated group. I had never seen this
before. I was not going to the pub to meet woman I just found there
absense noticable.
Cheers
Glenn
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From: Edinburgh
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Behalf Of Ian McConachie
Sent: 03 September 2014 11:38
To: Python Edinburgh
Subject: Re: [Python Edinburgh] Talks!
Hi everyone,
I have been lurking on this mailing list for quite some time but maybe
should now stick my hand in the air.
I think that PyLadies is an excellent group. I used to teach computing
at college and one of the issues that we were always trying to find
solutions for was attracting women into computer science.
Any initiative that presents a women friendly path into the programming
community can only be applauded and supported. I was very pleased to see
the emergence of the Edinburgh group, well done Becky.
I joined this mailing group a few years ago and attended one pub meetup
which turned out not to be what I was anticipating. Everyone was really
friendly and welcoming but due to the nature of meeting in a pub, I felt
like I was gatecrashing on a group of friends having a regular get
together.
It would be interesting for someone to think about how many people, like
myself have come along to only one metup.
I think the more structured approach of talks and workshops would offer
a better environment for new people to come along and feel welcomed into
the group. Then maybe more people will feel comfortable in joining in
the pub meetups as well.
Becky Smith <mailto:rebkwok at gmail.com>
3 September 2014 11:23
PyLadies is a global organisation with chapters in many
locations around the world (http://www.pyladies.com/locations/). Yes,
there is a need for a culture change, and PyLadies (and other groups
aimed at supporting women in programming) are part of the work towards
that change. The aim is not to divide female/male groups, but to give
women a group that they feel comfortable joining, and to provide a
bridge into the wider python community. Then we may get a better
balance at Python Edinburgh as well.
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Magnus Hagdorn <mailto:magnus.hagdorn at marsupium.org>
3 September 2014 11:07
Python is used by ArcGIS to automate any processes within
ArcGIS, ie you
can program ArcGIS in python.
gdal is one of the libraries used by qgis or grass. I might be
able to
direct you at useful python packages to do particular bits of
GIS
processing. We have people use python with ArcGIS to automate
processes.
Another big area is processing of satellite images.
Python is great in a scientific environment, it is easy to use
and
learn, there are plenty of good modules and you are not limited
to a
particular problem domain. We recommend python where it makes
sense and
see a huge uptake by academics and postdocs. We are now starting
to
teach our undergrads python.
Cheers
magnus
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Bald, Glenn <mailto:Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk>
3 September 2014 10:42
I have only been to one pub meet. People were friendly but I was
a bit
lost. Most people seemed regulars? For me personally
demonstrations and
talks possibly more useful at my stage but I can see for more
established developers pub meetup useful.
The reason I ask about GIS is I think python has a lot of
potential in
GIS. I use for ArcGIS on Oracle. Also interested in it's use
with QGIS
never heard of gdal (will look up).
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Sent: 03 September 2014 10:32
To: edinburgh at python.org
Subject: Re: [Python Edinburgh] Talks!
On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 10:05 +0100, Bald, Glenn wrote:
Hello,
I do think there is a space for
Educational/Presentational effents
that could have pizza and beer/coffee after. So yes if
someone comes
along and wishes to organise its a good thing. BUT
should not clash
with the timing of the pub meetup.
<delurking>
I haven't managed to make it to a pub meeting but really should
do.
Having more stuff in my calendar makes it even more tricky. So
I'd
prefer to keep it simple. I think the issue with talks is that
it is
tricky getting a stream of good talks. So having regular pub
meetings
with the occasional talk is more feasible.
Since I am emailing everyone Does anyone use Python in a
GIS context?
We (at the School of GeoSciences) have a good number of people
using
python in a GIS context, both together with arcgis and gdal and
friends.
Any particular questions?
Cheers
magnus
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Magnus Hagdorn <mailto:magnus.hagdorn at marsupium.org>
3 September 2014 10:32
On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 10:05 +0100, Bald, Glenn wrote:
Hello,
I do think there is a space for
Educational/Presentational effents
that could have pizza and beer/coffee after. So yes if
someone comes
along and wishes to organise its a good thing. BUT
should not clash
with the timing of the pub meetup.
<delurking>
I haven't managed to make it to a pub meeting but really should
do.
Having more stuff in my calendar makes it even more tricky. So
I'd
prefer to keep it simple. I think the issue with talks is that
it is
tricky getting a stream of good talks. So having regular pub
meetings
with the occasional talk is more feasible.
Since I am emailing everyone Does anyone use Python in a
GIS context?
We (at the School of GeoSciences) have a good number of people
using
python in a GIS context, both together with arcgis and gdal and
friends.
Any particular questions?
Cheers
magnus
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Bald, Glenn <mailto:Glenn.Bald at forestry.gsi.gov.uk>
3 September 2014 10:05
Hello,
I think I have lost track. I am either with the people front of
Judea or the Judean people front. I don't think another meetup would do
anything other than split the group? I already think having a seperate
womans group is counter productive. If women feel uncomfortable or
intimidated then this should be discussed so we can change the culture
to welcome everyone.
I do think there is a space for Educational/Presentational
effents that could have pizza and beer/coffee after. So yes if someone
comes along and wishes to organise its a good thing. BUT should not
clash with the timing of the pub meetup.
Since I am emailing everyone Does anyone use Python in a GIS
context?
Cheers
Glenn
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From: Edinburgh [
mailto:edinburgh-bounces+glenn.bald=forestry.gsi.gov.uk at python.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Smith
Sent: 02 September 2014 16:59
To: Python Edinburgh
Subject: Re: [Python Edinburgh] Talks!
Hi everybody,
In the past when I've asked around, there's been a general
feeling that we'd like to keep the pub meetups as they are and run talks
separately. Before Toms unilaterally changes the format of our main
function can anybody who has an opinion reply to this thread stating
their preference.
I think the options are:
* Keep pub meetups as they are and run talks separately on a
different day.
* Start each meetup in a suitable venue (probably a local Python
shop's office) with a short talk, followed by a move to the pub
* Hold each meetup in suitable venue (see above) with a short
talk and (possibly free) beer and pizza.
If anyone has any other suggestions, please also feel free to
post them.
--Mark
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