Not me wrote - > Actually, I think Python could get what he wants if copy.copy and > copy.deepcopy were added to the builtins as 'copy' and 'deepcopy' Now that I am a reStructuredText guru ;), I can at least *format* a nice PEP. But I, like everyone else, have a lot on my plate. Guido - Total waste of time? Maybe a preliminary ruling on that narrow question? thanks, Art