[Edu-sig] Fw: [Visualpython-users] VPython and LiveZope

[Arthur]

From: "Dethe Elza" <delza at blastradius.com>

> I think the kitchen sink approach is good, with some serious attention
> given to presentation, layout of desktop icons, menus, etc.  Put it all
> in and give emphasis to the more polished work.

Sounds like a plan.

>
> I believe that the hard drive *can* be mounted, or you can use
> FTP/WebDAV etc. for saving work.  The solution used to be to save >your
work on a floppy, now it seems to be to use a networked drive.

Good enough.

>
> Yes, that is more limiting, although you could still play pygames %-)

I see the %-).

But...

At the PyCon presentation on Teaching Programming with PyGame, time was
spent explaining the rules and regs developed around the program.

Creating games in school:  Good
Playing games in school: Bad
"Testing" games created in school, during school: Gray Area

But there was a serious eye on theses issues, and pretty clear rules and
regs.

Python for the Fun of It

and

Python in Education

are in my mind both worthwhile - but quite distinct - endeavors.

"MyKnoppix" would probably be of little interest to the general population
of "kids".

Whatever it is it is, I would hope it to be - firstly - a Teachers Edition

As such, I believe it would be dense with interesting resources to explore.

Since I am actually quite serious about exploring this, I do need to ask...

Are we on the same page - to a reasonable extent?

> And there are some ISO images which contain very good starts on this.

I'm sure.

> Could you post URLs to some of the resources you've explored?

The Freeduc CVS and FTP site to work on the packages, (
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ofset ).

And I do intend - but have not yet explored - the LiveZope Knoppix

"""
The new version LiveZope-0.1.2.iso is put in the web site:
ftp://math.cgu.edu.tw/pub/KNOPPIX
"""

And to wander a bit, there was this exchange in the orignal visual-python
list post that I had forwarded

Bruce Sherwood
> > Your development may be very important, because many people have wanted
> > to be able to run VPython programs in a browser. Is that what you
> > have achieved? Can this work in other browsers?

chu-ching huang
> I purpose to integrate the Vpython codes into Zope server but no achieved.

Is chu-ching saying that he can web enable VPython by a patch to Zope?
Me want!

> How does one modify an ISO image to create a new bootable CD?

As to the details, I'm clueless.  I can't believe there is too much to
confront here, though.

>
> --Dethe

Art