[Edu-sig] Edu-sig Digest, Vol 22, Issue 26

[Dethe Elza]

Kirby (and the rest of you edu-sig-ers),

Next time you're going to be in Vancouver, give me a shout-out.  I'd  
love to catch up face-to-face.

I know I've been fairly low-key on the list lately, but I'm still  
following along with interest.

Toby,

The state of python IDEs is something that comes up a lot, especially  
on the mac-python list (where the choices are even more limited).   
I'm looking forward to Komodo being available for OS X, but if you're  
on another platform it's worth trying out. If you like Eclipse, I  
understand their Python plugins are shaping up nicely.  There are a  
*ton* of Python IDEs, and I haven't evaluated them all (or any very  
deeply, I'm more of a Catholic using TextWrangler and Vim), but in  
large part it depends on what features you're looking for.  Some of  
the Python IDEs are very living products--if it does 80-90% of what  
you need, but is missing a feature or two that would really make it  
shine for you, a little feedback to the developers can go a long  
way.  On the mac-python list I've seen IDE developers come and ask  
what our wishlist features are to guide their development.  So there  
are options, and they are improving all the time.

--Dethe

On 25-Jun-05, at 12:06 PM, Kirby Urner wrote:


>> On the down side, the Python IDEs I've seen are nowhere near as  
>> good as
>> the Java IDEs such as Eclipse or IDEA. This is no problem for  
>> Catholic
>> coders who dislike IDEs, and it is less of problem for Python because
>> of its good syntax, but an IDE that supports refactoring and  
>> incremental
>> compiling sure would be nice.
>>
>> Toby
>> --
>> Dr. Toby Donaldson
>> School of Computing Science
>> Simon Fraser University
>>
>>
>
> I've used the Python plug-in for Eclipse some.  It wasn't in final  
> form, but
> did sport a lot of those Eclipse features.
>
> If you're willing to spend money, there's the Wing IDE.  I've  
> downloaded the
> free trial version, but have yet to evaluate it properly.
>
> I fully agree that we could use some more featureful IDEs,  
> including free
> ones -- which   reminds me, it's been awhile since I played with  
> DrPython.
> I think I'll go grab it before the meter runs out on my Hotspot  
> wireless
> account (I'm in the Vancouver airport international departure lounge).
>
> Kirby
>
>
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Choosing software is not a neutral act. It must be done consciously;  
the debate over free and proprietary software can’t be limited to the  
differences in the applications’ features and ergonomics. To choose  
an operating system, or software, or network architecture is to  
choose a kind of society. --Lemaire and Decroocq (trans. by Tim Bray)