[Edu-sig] Visual Programming in Python?

Trent Oliphant trent at oliphant.org
Sun Apr 16 00:16:12 CEST 2006

Kirby wrote

>We're no longer talking about kid-friendly programming though.  This
>is about adult application developers who want to save time,
>especially when it comes to visually designing a user interface from
>palettes of canned widgets.
I never thought that the discussion was necessarily just making 
something that is kid-friendly, but I think that would be a possible 
benefit.  I personally would love to have this sort of tool - mostly for 
learning purposes and being able to follow code.

I would be willing to work on this sort of project - especially if it 
had as ONE of its focus tools for teaching programming concepts. I 
homeschool my children and have tried to figure out how to teach them 
programming.  I know that there is alot of great books and other tools 
out there for this, but alot of it is an issue of time.  If I could be 
working on a project with my children and the tools were easy enough for 
them to use - then I would be able to work with them more. 

Kirby also wrote earlier

>Given Python is so OO, my first concern would be whether this
>flowchart-driven system would push us back to a more loopy/blocky
>procedural style.  I'd like to see what this would look like on paper
>before I was persuaded it was a worthwhile undertaking -- not that I'm
>any kind of gatekeeper or funder in this regard, so pay no attention.
Even in OO programming there is still plenty that is procedural based 
within objects and methods.
Of course - I don't know that I fully use the power of OO in my 
programming style rather just using a class as a wrapper for a bunch of 

Trent Oliphant

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