[Edu-sig] PySqueak: more on the cultural divide among paradigms

[Ian Bicking]

kirby urner wrote:
> The PySqueak effort (badly named?) is more like the VPython effort. 
> Its aim is to give us a sophisticated back end graphics engine to dink
> around with.

I thought there was some idea about an IDE, ala Squeak; or at least I 
assume this is what Paul was thinking about.  Is any IDE or interactive 
environment planned, or just a graphical environment?

If it's just a graphical environment, then why not VPython?  Or Soya3D? 
  (Incidentally there's several Summer of Code proposals for Soya3D). 
Or PyGame, or some library sitting on top of PyGame.  Or PythonCard. 
Or, heck, HTML.

To me, the IDE experience of Squeak or a Logo (not including UCB Logo, 
of course) is far more interesting and unattained by Python than any 
particular graphic capability.  Which is where the IDEish ideas come 
about, which seems like what was motivating Paul.


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