[Edu-sig] The fate of raw_input() in Python 3000

[Arthur]

kirby urner wrote:

>So seriously, from __past__ import is my preferred solution (I called
>it 'retro').
>
Probably an uphill battle.

My understanding - based on a short conversation I had with Guido at 
PyCon 2004, and perhaps other references I have come across - is that he 
does not support the idea of these kinds of toggles as permanent 
language features.

OTOH, if I recall correctly, Tim Peters has expressed some admiration 
for the Dr. Scheme scheme of things - which would presumably implies a 
positive view about its ability to toggle language features.

Tim does not strike one as the petition signer type, in any case.

I of course think the issue is blown way out of proportion in any case - 
cannot understand the hesitancy to introduce the concept of import on 
Day One, thinking it can be explained adequately in one or  two succinct 
sentences (and probably should be in any case), and if it sounds strange 
on Day One, well so does everything else sound strange on Day One. So 
the idea that no one is coming back for Day Two for that reason is 
unreasonable.

import

is in fact the most exciting statement we have.

import OpenGL
import VPython
import Numarray
import some kid's bright idea from yesterday
import CandyStore as yummies

I would not have been back for Day Two of Python if I didn't understand 
from Day One, what import could do for me.

I think the professors are very wrong here.

Art


> I'm not wanting to sign on any petition, in any case --
>not my style (except sometimes (signed a "get Shockwave on Linux!" web
>thingy, also "Bring Duckman cartoons to DVD!")).
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