[Edu-sig] Business in Education

ajsiegel at optonline.net ajsiegel at optonline.net
Wed Sep 27 23:37:18 CEST 2006


From: kirby urner 

> On 9/27/06, kirby urner wrote:
> > So Arthur, in thinking more about your well-founded suspicion 
> of the
> > profit motive, when it comes to curriculum writing and standard
> > setting (test making), I'm thinking we should go over in what 
> ways the
> > public schools, pre college, are already subject to commercial
> > moneymaking.
> 
> I said nothing about the test making industry, i.e. ETS. Obviously
> there's a lot more to this picture than just textbooks, plus New York
> isn't necessarily a center for K-12. I hear the McGraw-Hill division
> I used to work for moved to Deluth or someplace, maybe Omaha.

Glad to have that toned down a bit.  We are more ethnic (and sensitive about it) then 
folks tend to be in Portland, for example.  Careful  - speculating about the influence
of business folks based in New York in particular might bring you allies you shouldn't want.
And there will be no possibility of a truce, with me. 

Maybe, in fact, us business folks in New York lost our sense of humor about fringe 
movements sometime last century, and perhaps our discussions do reflect some
of that undertone.

> > Get the Ed Department to sign off on Everyday Math, and you've got
> > your gravy train for the next fifteen years minimum (but good doobie
> > bureaucrats need job security too, so stamp it with "more study
> > needed").

Just folks..

Happens that the brightest, most committed, most energetic high school math teacher I
know is not beating his head against some pillar in the Bowery, or wearing a
pirate hat - for that matter.
  
He first co-authored a high school trigonometry textbook with a Russian gentlemen, now professor at a US university, acknoledged to be a Major Living Mind in mathematics. They, I assure you, were only going to write the text book they were willing to write - the publisher's
ability to cover costs being the publisher's problem.

He was then recruited by the National Science Foundation, to advise on grants related
to pre-college mathematics education.

Yes he is Old School. Knows nothing about programming and seeing PyGeo didn't seem to 
light him on fire.  But there are years of classroom work, organizing math competitions all
over the world, etc. and etc.  - all on short pay, at work in his look at things. And he is nobody's 
lackey, I assure you.

The NSF was doing its job quite well in recognizing and recruiting him.

In my own small cross-sectional view of things - gained from the simple fact of waking
up in the morning and going about my business - I have seen this kind of story 
repeated enough that my own cynical, pessimistic tendencies have been tamed 
a bit.

OTOH, this same cross-section has included an intense and  realistic view of what 
makes a business tick.  And I have no personal problem seeing myself as part of 
that clockwork. I won't belabor the issue, other then to repeat my conviction that
this ticking, brought too close to the classroom, is and is not what it might seem to be.

It is a finely tuned clock, indeed - except that it is now attached to a detonator.  It is
nobody's intention that this be the way it is.  But that doesn't help.

And something or other about breakfeast cereals, but I'm not sure what.

Art 
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