[Edu-sig] python for kids...

Jason R Briggs jasonrbriggs at gmail.com
Thu Oct 11 09:35:47 CEST 2007

I did (briefly) consider pyglet and a few other libraries, but in the 
end decided to avoid as much 3rd party stuff as possible.  My hope 
was/is that non-(or not very)-technical parents will be able to get 
their kids started with as few downloads as possible.

I know what you mean about moving the Turtle chapter earlier.  Maybe I 
need to revisit that decision.  I was worried that it might not make as 
much sense if it was too early, but perhaps I'm being to conservative.  
Happy to be lead on that front.

Andre Roberge wrote:
> <mailto:edu-sig at python.org>
> This is very much a first reaction after glancing through your book.
> I find that, for a first draft done on your own, it looks very 
> professional. I like the simple use of colors (green code and red 
> visible spaces), and the illustrations are nice.
> After this first "reading", I would suggest to move the turtle stuff 
> much, much sooner ... as soon as possible in fact.  I think you can 
> really get the kids hooked from that, giving them motivation to do the 
> strings stuff later.  But that's my own bias...
> The Tkinter introduction is really nice - I don't recall seeing 
> something this nice before.   However, I would suggest that you have a 
> look at pyglet.  After playing a bit with it, I find that pyglet has a 
> lot of potential, perhaps more (imo) than the standard pygame.  (for 
> one thing, being a pure Python module, it can be used right way "as 
> is" when changing Python version, rather than having to rely on 
> someone else compiling it)
> I'll try to really read through it in the near future and provide more 
> meaningful feedback.
> For now: "Great job!" :-)
> André
> On 10/10/07, *Jason R Briggs* < jasonrbriggs at gmail.com 
> <mailto:jasonrbriggs at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     Hi All
>     I'm hoping to get some feedback (flameback?) for a book I've been
>     working on (on and off for the last year or so), endeavouring to teach
>     Python to kids (8-12).  It's not perfect (by any stretch of the
>     imagination), since it hasn't had a professional edit -- nor have I
>     given it the requisite 6 month or so cooling down period to go
>     back and
>     hack out large chunks of dross with a bit of
>     "what-the-hell-was-I-thinking" objectivity.  But I'm hoping some may
>     find it useful, and over time I might get enough feedback to tidy
>     it up
>     a bit.
>     Anyway, the download link can be found on this page:
>     http://www.briggs.net.nz/log/writing/snake-wrangling-for-kids/
>     And a bit of background reading as to why I even bothered can be found
>     here, if at all interested:
>     http://www.briggs.net.nz/log/category/swfk/
>     Any commentary would be useful, and attribution will, of course,
>     be given.
>     Jason
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