[Edu-sig] interactive python tutorial online (as tryruby)
kirby.urner at gmail.com
Mon Dec 15 19:31:23 CET 2008
Count me a skeptic that there's anything unattractive about Python
that's to blame for keeping it from wider use in school systems.
Once you go down that road, of soliciting off-the-cuff feedback,
you'll get endless nonsense about making it case insensitive, adding a
"schoolish math" division symbol, or in general making it more like
Mathematica, meaning superscripts, subscripts... and voila, no more
Python (I call it the disappearing snake trick).
I prefer counter-carping about those ugly computer-illiterate
notations, a typographer's nightmare (or job security depending how
you look at it): over-indulgence in single-symbol expressions;
obsession with lambda, sigma -- too clever by half, a way to
obfuscate, not friendly to children (deliberately -- going for that
imposing, austere look, trying to intimidate (very Springer-Verlag,
the opposite of O'Reilly's far friendlier 'Head First' series)).
Why many smart geeks drop pre- or even anti-computer "schoolish math"
like a hot potato is they realize it:
(a) doesn't execute (i.e. is dead on arrival, DOA) and
(b) is designed to pump up egos at the expense of readability, nothing
so sane as the Zen of Python at work.
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Andre Roberge <andre.roberge at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Jurgis Pralgauskis
> <jurgis.pralgauskis at gmail.com> wrote:
>> it would make python more attractive,
>> if there would be possibility to try it online
>> like ruby has http://tryruby.hobix.com
>> maybe this could be made with jython , http://code.google.com/p/epy/
>> or crunchy on GAE
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