At 01:54 AM 7/13/2010, kirby urner wrote: >You mean some methods actually change an object >"in place"? Change it's state? No copies, no >output? No "back up"? I've found it disconcerting that in Python 3 lst1 += lst2 changes lst1 in place, while lst1 = lst1 + lst2 makes a copy. Gary Litvin www.skylit.com