From aharrin at luc.edu  Tue Mar  6 02:26:20 2012
From: aharrin at luc.edu (Andrew Harrington)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 19:26:20 -0600
Subject: [Edu-sig] Bof, dinner, meeting... at PyCon
Message-ID: <CAOaxTE+BupmyjtYmgYVou60O9T7WaXV0-TMd9Y9b5OFZdyMBuw@mail.gmail.com>

I just looked for Bof stuff on the Pycon pages, and only found the Open
space page.  I made an entry for edu-sig at the conventional time, Saturday
night.  I did *not* see how to instantiate the page that I refer to there.
 I do not understand the system this year.
Hopefully someone will actually create and give open editing access to the
page I refer to:
https://us.pycon.org/2012/community/openspaces/edu-sig

Are people up for dinner and conversation back at the venue afterward?  I
liked it on the wiki page in past years where educators signed in and gave
a bit of info about themselves.  I hope that works out this year.  if not,
at least I would like to here from folks on the listserv.

I am not familiar with the area.  In the past a reservation for dinner well
ahead of time was a good thing.  Anyone more knowledgeable?

-- 
Dr. Andrew N. Harrington
  Computer Science Department
  Loyola University Chicago
Lakeshore office in the Math Department: 205 Loyola Hall
http://www.cs.luc.edu/~anh
Phone: 773-915-7999
Fax:    312-915-7998
aharrin at luc.edu
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From vceder at gmail.com  Tue Mar  6 02:49:10 2012
From: vceder at gmail.com (Vern Ceder)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 19:49:10 -0600
Subject: [Edu-sig] Bof, dinner, meeting... at PyCon
In-Reply-To: <CAOaxTE+BupmyjtYmgYVou60O9T7WaXV0-TMd9Y9b5OFZdyMBuw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOaxTE+BupmyjtYmgYVou60O9T7WaXV0-TMd9Y9b5OFZdyMBuw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAdq-kizoDHnUf-q8Dbkwctixy18o9zqwReRJ+6CnUrhjtxoYw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Andy,

I don't think the current system allows links containing a  hyphen... I've
created the page at
https://us.pycon.org/2012/community/openspaces/edu_sig(with an
underscore), and I believe you can edit it now.

Cheers,
Vern


On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Andrew Harrington <aharrin at luc.edu> wrote:

> I just looked for Bof stuff on the Pycon pages, and only found the Open
> space page.  I made an entry for edu-sig at the conventional time, Saturday
> night.  I did *not* see how to instantiate the page that I refer to there.
>  I do not understand the system this year.
> Hopefully someone will actually create and give open editing access to the
> page I refer to:
> https://us.pycon.org/2012/community/openspaces/edu-sig
>
> Are people up for dinner and conversation back at the venue afterward?  I
> liked it on the wiki page in past years where educators signed in and gave
> a bit of info about themselves.  I hope that works out this year.  if not,
> at least I would like to here from folks on the listserv.
>
> I am not familiar with the area.  In the past a reservation for dinner
> well ahead of time was a good thing.  Anyone more knowledgeable?
>
> --
> Dr. Andrew N. Harrington
>   Computer Science Department
>   Loyola University Chicago
> Lakeshore office in the Math Department: 205 Loyola Hall
> http://www.cs.luc.edu/~anh
> Phone: 773-915-7999
> Fax:    312-915-7998
> aharrin at luc.edu
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Edu-sig mailing list
> Edu-sig at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig
>
>


-- 
Vern Ceder
vceder at gmail.com, vceder at dogsinmotion.com
The Quick Python Book, 2nd Ed - http://bit.ly/bRsWDW
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From kirby.urner at gmail.com  Tue Mar  6 03:23:22 2012
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 21:23:22 -0500
Subject: [Edu-sig] Bof, dinner, meeting... at PyCon
In-Reply-To: <CAAdq-kizoDHnUf-q8Dbkwctixy18o9zqwReRJ+6CnUrhjtxoYw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOaxTE+BupmyjtYmgYVou60O9T7WaXV0-TMd9Y9b5OFZdyMBuw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAdq-kizoDHnUf-q8Dbkwctixy18o9zqwReRJ+6CnUrhjtxoYw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPJgG3Tr7BSjLBqP5pK1SLXx=8Zk6NtfL-f7DNMPd84NVkR7mA@mail.gmail.com>

I expect to be around Saturday.  Is michael paul coming from Beverly
Hills I wonder?  His email is python.math these days.

FYI my new window on the world, professionally speaking:

http://blog.oreillyschool.com/2012/02/welcome-to-ost-python-wrangler-kirby-urner.html

Kirby

From calcpage at aol.com  Sun Mar 18 04:16:59 2012
From: calcpage at aol.com (A. Jorge Garcia)
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 23:16:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Edu-sig] python functions and Riemann Sums
In-Reply-To: <CAPJgG3QVX5qQ96PobmyrPyzcqLMMy57hj999iTUj8+rva2oRZQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPJgG3QVX5qQ96PobmyrPyzcqLMMy57hj999iTUj8+rva2oRZQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CED2CCB701B261-2BD8-2104@webmail-d165.sysops.aol.com>

My students are having fun writing python functions to estimate 
definite integrals,

http://shadowfaxrant.blogspot.com/2012/03/quarter-iii-week-6-screencasts.html

HTH,
A. Jorge Garcia
Applied Math and CompSci
http://shadowfaxrant.blogspot.com
http://www.youtube.com/calcpage2009




From kirby.urner at gmail.com  Mon Mar 19 03:20:30 2012
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 19:20:30 -0700
Subject: [Edu-sig] a snippet about Pycon 2012
Message-ID: <CAPJgG3Qp2df_1in-S1vBU7kde13S_wYUOm1NOUOoTvrAOKSKqA@mail.gmail.com>

Here's an excerpt from a post to a bfi.org related group in follow-up to Pycon:

"""

In other news, related in that micro-engineering is at the basis of
all of this, I have recently returned from PyCon 2012, more
technically the US Pycon of that year, but which will be moving to
Montreal in 2014, so North American more than just US.

Brazil and Argentina have their own Pycons. ?Chairman Steve, my close
neighbor in Portland, was at both of those in 2011. ?I need new
passport pictures if I'm to be going anywhere far away like that.

David Koski, our list owner, phoned me around the time he was getting
these most excellent shots of the TC Howard dome in Ohio.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/17157315 at N00/6834704198/in/set-72157629206299498

I was in the meantime sparring (in a friendly way) with the ESRI guy
about why we'd call the Fuller Map "crazy" (he had it on screen) when
as geeks we're always gawking at how big Greenland really isn't.

This was during Q&A in a well attended session on the basics of GIS.
I'd heard similar content at a Portland Barcamp, and also at Metro
(Food Not Bombs on my nametag).

http://pyvideo.org/video/887/a-gentle-introduction-to-gis??(start
around 26 minutes to get the background leading up to my question -- I
come in at 29 mins 10 secs or so, to 30 mins 30 secs).

Portlanders are fairly adept with these tools.

"""

Lots about Bucky Fuller (RBF) related stuff because I'm bfi.org's
first web master, long ago (Drupal not even invented yet).

( not news to folks here -- like I've been writing about rbf.py and
sundries -- e.g. hypertoons -- for like decades )

Anyway, the above was from a report back to that little readership.

Barry Warsaw's talk on the future of mailman was of interest, given
that's what drives our little list here.

Did we want something besides plaintext for edu-sig?  On mathfuture
we're using all kinds of colors.

"Listservs" still rule (mail groups have a lot going for them) -- I
had some new links on that, but where'd they go?

Next time perhaps.

Kirby

From calcpage at aol.com  Tue Mar 27 17:56:55 2012
From: calcpage at aol.com (A. Jorge Garcia)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:56:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Edu-sig] python, SAGE and Riemann Sums!
In-Reply-To: <8CED2CCB701B261-2BD8-2104@webmail-d165.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CED2CCB701B261-2BD8-2104@webmail-d165.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CEDA495D724408-1728-3F6F@webmail-m002.sysops.aol.com>

My students are using python and SAGE to do Riemann Sums!

http://shadowfaxrant.blogspot.com/2012/03/quarter-iii-week-7-screencasts.html

HTH,
A. Jorge Garcia
Applied Math and CompSci
http://shadowfaxrant.blogspot.com
http://www.youtube.com/calcpage2009





From malkocb at gmail.com  Tue Mar 27 19:49:25 2012
From: malkocb at gmail.com (Berkin Malkoc)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 20:49:25 +0300
Subject: [Edu-sig] python, SAGE and Riemann Sums!
In-Reply-To: <8CEDA495D724408-1728-3F6F@webmail-m002.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CED2CCB701B261-2BD8-2104@webmail-d165.sysops.aol.com>
	<8CEDA495D724408-1728-3F6F@webmail-m002.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <CAC+iTgDCJSNYqTkHABJ5ppu7t3gwF2++tRnRDD1yHRn3RfHDzQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 6:56 PM, A. Jorge Garcia <calcpage at aol.com> wrote:

> My students are using python and SAGE to do Riemann Sums!
>
>
> http://shadowfaxrant.blogspot.com/2012/03/quarter-iii-week-7-screencasts.html
>

About a week ago, you had posted a very similar message to sage-edu and got
negative criticism due to it leading directly to a donation request instead
of a readily enjoyable relevant content. Then you had improved upon your
message by giving direct links to your Sage worksheets (which was nice, I
think).

So, why a retrograde step on python-edu just one week later?

Berkin
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From kirby.urner at gmail.com  Thu Mar 29 17:49:15 2012
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:49:15 -0700
Subject: [Edu-sig] Raspberry Pi?
Message-ID: <CAPJgG3Rqfs+XVMuYMqOk-j0ZjqW9L5PA5bVbsyOoPcNojh5ACA@mail.gmail.com>

Lots of buzz on PSF list about Python and Raspberry Pi.

I know from independent sources that Python has attracted
considerable attention in the UK education community.  Also,
the BBC Micro also came out around this time and our
PSF chairman is in the UK to help celebrate its anniversary
(50th? -- getting there).  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Micro

In having a public charter, unlike private advertiser based
broadcasters such as Fox, the BBC is rather different from
any USA channels, including PBS.  Its forays into public
policy and initiatives, such as the Computer Literacy Project
of the 1980s, out of which the BBC Micro was born, is not
mirrored in the USA.

Raspberry Pi doesn't currently run Python but there is
some thought that it should.

I haven't researched the GNU / Stallman take yet, though I
know he's unhappy about the sell-out of Linux distros to
closed source video drivers, which appear as proprietary
blobs (already compiled binaries) with no source.  The
Raspberry Pi uses secret code to drive its GPU so is
not technically a purely FLOSS project (as of today
anyway).

Debian has a long history of working with not-free annexes
so this will feel like home to most Debian developers.

I'm glad the BBC has a mandate to serve the public in
the UK with interesting and innovative gadgets.  That's the
kind of R&D we like to see, including with closed source
components (I have access to closed source games
galore).  Even if the UK versions seem obsolete more
quickly, because leading edge (like the XO), the follow-on
products have the BBC to thank for opening world markets
( = the human imagination) to these new concepts.

Kirby
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From bert at freudenbergs.de  Thu Mar 29 18:04:41 2012
From: bert at freudenbergs.de (Bert Freudenberg)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 18:04:41 +0200
Subject: [Edu-sig] Raspberry Pi?
In-Reply-To: <CAPJgG3Rqfs+XVMuYMqOk-j0ZjqW9L5PA5bVbsyOoPcNojh5ACA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPJgG3Rqfs+XVMuYMqOk-j0ZjqW9L5PA5bVbsyOoPcNojh5ACA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <41EBF505-E7E0-492B-9DBA-D7F94BC0D952@freudenbergs.de>

On 29.03.2012, at 17:49, kirby urner wrote:

> Raspberry Pi doesn't currently run Python but there is some thought that it should.

Huh? This is what the FAQ says:

http://www.raspberrypi.org/faqs

"Does it have an official programming language?

By default, we?ll be supporting Python as the educational language.

Any language which will compile for ARMv6 can be used with the Raspberry Pi, though; so you?re not limited to using Python."


- Bert -



From ntoll at ntoll.org  Thu Mar 29 18:08:58 2012
From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas H.Tollervey)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:08:58 +0100
Subject: [Edu-sig] Raspberry Pi?
In-Reply-To: <CAPJgG3Rqfs+XVMuYMqOk-j0ZjqW9L5PA5bVbsyOoPcNojh5ACA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPJgG3Rqfs+XVMuYMqOk-j0ZjqW9L5PA5bVbsyOoPcNojh5ACA@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi,

I got hold of a RaspberryPi alpha board for last year's PyconUK and
can confirm it most certainly does run Python. The machine I got had a
recent stable Debian on the SD card.

John Pinner currently has the machine if you need more info. I blogged
about it here:

http://ntoll.org/article/baking-with-raspberrypipy

Happy to answer questions.

Nicholas.

On 29/03/12 16:49, kirby urner wrote:
> 
> Lots of buzz on PSF list about Python and Raspberry Pi.
> 
> I know from independent sources that Python has attracted 
> considerable attention in the UK education community.  Also, the
> BBC Micro also came out around this time and our PSF chairman is in
> the UK to help celebrate its anniversary (50th? -- getting there).
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Micro
> 
> In having a public charter, unlike private advertiser based 
> broadcasters such as Fox, the BBC is rather different from any USA
> channels, including PBS.  Its forays into public policy and
> initiatives, such as the Computer Literacy Project of the 1980s,
> out of which the BBC Micro was born, is not mirrored in the USA.
> 
> Raspberry Pi doesn't currently run Python but there is some thought
> that it should.
> 
> I haven't researched the GNU / Stallman take yet, though I know
> he's unhappy about the sell-out of Linux distros to closed source
> video drivers, which appear as proprietary blobs (already compiled
> binaries) with no source.  The Raspberry Pi uses secret code to
> drive its GPU so is not technically a purely FLOSS project (as of
> today anyway).
> 
> Debian has a long history of working with not-free annexes so this
> will feel like home to most Debian developers.
> 
> I'm glad the BBC has a mandate to serve the public in the UK with
> interesting and innovative gadgets.  That's the kind of R&D we like
> to see, including with closed source components (I have access to
> closed source games galore).  Even if the UK versions seem obsolete
> more quickly, because leading edge (like the XO), the follow-on 
> products have the BBC to thank for opening world markets ( = the
> human imagination) to these new concepts.
> 
> Kirby
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________ Edu-sig mailing
> list Edu-sig at python.org 
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig

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From kurner at oreillyschool.com  Thu Mar 29 18:44:30 2012
From: kurner at oreillyschool.com (Kirby Urner)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 09:44:30 -0700
Subject: [Edu-sig] Raspberry Pi?
In-Reply-To: <41EBF505-E7E0-492B-9DBA-D7F94BC0D952@freudenbergs.de>
References: <CAPJgG3Rqfs+XVMuYMqOk-j0ZjqW9L5PA5bVbsyOoPcNojh5ACA@mail.gmail.com>
	<41EBF505-E7E0-492B-9DBA-D7F94BC0D952@freudenbergs.de>
Message-ID: <CAGe4BMFVkyjWHc62CBq2fnqADziEHpBBe-zwB3wRrpxwmwHmHQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de>wrote:

> On 29.03.2012, at 17:49, kirby urner wrote:
>
> > Raspberry Pi doesn't currently run Python but there is some thought that
> it should.
>
> Huh? This is what the FAQ says:
>
> http://www.raspberrypi.org/faqs
>
>
Apologies, the buzz on the list (generated by Steve Holden who is over
there talking to Eben) had to do with a Python OS, sort of like BASIC was
in ROM in early PCs.

Yes, it runs Linux and runs Python atop Linux, like the XO does.

Kirby
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From calcpage at aol.com  Thu Mar 29 19:32:44 2012
From: calcpage at aol.com (A. Jorge Garcia)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:32:44 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Edu-sig] python, SAGE and Riemann Sums!
In-Reply-To: <8CEDA495D724408-1728-3F6F@webmail-m002.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CEDA495D724408-1728-3F6F@webmail-m002.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CEDBE915A1DF23-65C-30A@webmail-d018.sysops.aol.com>

OOPs, wrong link!

https://sage.math.clemson.edu:34567/home/pub/297/

Fear not, this is a direct link to my published worksheet where we 
cleaned up out functions a bit.

Enjoy,
A. Jorge Garcia
Applied Math and CompSci
http://shadowfaxrant.blogspot.com
http://www.youtube.com/calcpage2009