From jurgis.pralgauskis at gmail.com Fri Aug 29 23:33:06 2014 From: jurgis.pralgauskis at gmail.com (Jurgis Pralgauskis) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 00:33:06 +0300 Subject: [Edu-sig] https://www.python.org/success-stories/category/education/ Message-ID: empty? -- Jurgis Pralgauskis tel: 8-616 77613; Don't worry, be happy and make things better ;) http://galvosukykla.lt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ntoll at ntoll.org Sat Aug 30 11:02:34 2014 From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas H.Tollervey) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 10:02:34 +0100 Subject: [Edu-sig] https://www.python.org/success-stories/category/education/ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5401932A.3020903@ntoll.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 29/08/14 22:33, Jurgis Pralgauskis wrote: > empty? > > -- Jurgis Pralgauskis tel: 8-616 77613; Don't worry, be happy and > make things better ;) http://galvosukykla.lt > > > _______________________________________________ Edu-sig mailing > list Edu-sig at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig > There's no obvious way that I know of to allow us to change this. I presume there's a python.org web team somewhere who accept pull requests. I can think of many success stories (in the UK). Raspberry Pi, Education Track at PyconUK, RaspberryJam, Raspberry Jamboree, London Code Dojo, Reading Code Dojo etc etc etc N. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUAZMqAAoJEP0qBPaYQbb6X4IH+wUGgpbaOiOFi3oiKH9MWRGG v7K+irePicLBpwj9ReydXaZoE8n+ZOGaiqW4TWDgxz3su1cYtJCS2BBonvQ+E/kb VVp3/pUwgiv2DFsGieB1ormBIcaRT2sk9G5svggLfjTDtSzQOlBd2K2JMwKsXcbk tGo88+WNFk5Ylgiff8nFAJpUL/6Pk7DqvyWRo/1Sv7yPRTS3w4SE14cESMs0oREI bqbt2qP25e2lyyq/iaBCjikUl3lGj8YnPJTM2Vb0SN+JJocCgYNe6FZ7YkcLkjJj 9SGmUd35c4zczMtn5OB7JOE2dFj1MwGqR10Ndm0fZN/c8lwLOX3MDFUB5uOucS8= =Le0b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From lac at openend.se Sat Aug 30 12:22:00 2014 From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 12:22:00 +0200 Subject: [Edu-sig] https://www.python.org/success-stories/category/education/ In-Reply-To: Message from "Nicholas H.Tollervey" of "Sat, 30 Aug 2014 10:02:34 +0100." <5401932A.3020903@ntoll.org> References: <5401932A.3020903@ntoll.org> Message-ID: <201408301022.s7UAM0EF016653@fido.openend.se> In a message of Sat, 30 Aug 2014 10:02:34 +0100, "Nicholas H.Tollervey" writes: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >On 29/08/14 22:33, Jurgis Pralgauskis wrote: >> empty? >> >> -- Jurgis Pralgauskis tel: 8-616 77613; Don't worry, be happy and >> make things better ;) http://galvosukykla.lt >> >> >> _______________________________________________ Edu-sig mailing >> list Edu-sig at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig >> > >There's no obvious way that I know of to allow us to change this. I >presume there's a python.org web team somewhere who accept pull requests. > >I can think of many success stories (in the UK). Raspberry Pi, >Education Track at PyconUK, RaspberryJam, Raspberry Jamboree, London >Code Dojo, Reading Code Dojo etc etc etc > >N. Good luck. I think the only way to get changes now is to mail the private list psf-redesign at python.org. Don't bother mailing webmaster, that's me (and some others) and we cannot do anything, as we don't have the power to edit the site. We cannot read their private list, and they never mail anything to webmaster at python.org, so we don't know what (if anything) is doing on. My best informed (which admittedly is informed by the utter lack of information) guess is that nothing is going on. We've been forwarding such problems to psf-redesign for as long as the new site has been up, and figure we might as well have sent the lot to /dev/null. Laura From kurner at oreillyschool.com Sat Aug 30 21:51:36 2014 From: kurner at oreillyschool.com (Kirby Urner) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 12:51:36 -0700 Subject: [Edu-sig] Looking back on OSCON XVI Message-ID: In sketching out the Python ecosystem in broad brush terms, is it fair to say NumPy gets a lot of US investment whereas PyPy is more an EU pet project? Or is that too broad brush? I sat at the i18n table at OSCON and mostly met up with other North Americans, which can be plenty alien, and with Tatiana from Brazil. Tatiana's dad is a distinguished professor who believes in strong Portuguese literature, and Tati (as she's also known) became my ally when it came to advocating for Python courses in Brazilian Portuguese, and not necessarily translations exactly. Sure there's a place for Business English, but not as the only language of instruction. That was a "booth topic" (one of many) for O'Reilly School of Technology, with Matthew yakking in Russian, Japanese and Portuguese -- and English of course. He was our chief compliance officer during a recent chapter in which we sought to comply with specific rule books, now closed, and this was his first OSCON. In addition to Matthew, Kelly Hoover, Patrick Barton, myself, and Python course authors Steve Holden (Python) and Peter Scott (Perl), our school principal, Debra, manned the booth. Continuing with our i18n theme, two of my students, William and Natasha, both alumni and Russian-speaking, did student profiles with Debra (a standard video format). I haven't seen those yet, nor the three-way interview I joined in the camera booth, set up near to ours. Those video crews are kept busy with gig after gig and enjoyed getting a chance to let off steam at Horse Brass when it was all over. Holden had his OSCON Survivors Breakfast, top of the Hilton, where a couple of the program chairs got to unwind and hear a lot of sincerely positive feedback. Good OSCON this year. I'll close with links to my write-ups: http://worldgame.blogspot.com/2014/07/ramping-up.html http://worldgame.blogspot.com/2014/07/i18n.html http://worldgame.blogspot.com/2014/07/oscon-promo-keynote.html http://controlroom.blogspot.com/2014/07/oscon-2014-tutorials-day-1.html http://controlroom.blogspot.com/2014/07/scala-tutorial-at-oscon.html http://mybizmo.blogspot.com/2014/07/oscon-tutorials-day-2.html http://mybizmo.blogspot.com/2014/07/tutorial-on-nodejs-oscon-day-2.html http://mybizmo.blogspot.com/2014/07/more-keynotes-oscon-xvi.html http://controlroom.blogspot.com/2014/07/oscon-xvi.html http://worldgame.blogspot.com/2014/07/r0mls-talk-why-schools-dont-teach-open.html http://controlroom.blogspot.com/2014/07/oscon-xvi-wrap-up.html http://mybizmo.blogspot.com/2014/07/ramping-down.html DjangoCon starts here in town any day now, today in fact: http://www.djangocon.us/ Kirby PS: Pycon in Portland 2016, 2017 woo hoo! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kurner at oreillyschool.com Sat Aug 30 22:14:16 2014 From: kurner at oreillyschool.com (Kirby Urner) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 13:14:16 -0700 Subject: [Edu-sig] Looking back on OSCON XVI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Kirby Urner wrote: > In addition to Matthew, Kelly Hoover, Patrick Barton, myself, and course > authors Steve Holden (Python) and Peter Scott (Perl), our school principal, > Debra, manned the booth. > > And of course Christian joined the contingent flying in from Sebastopol, our Russian River area headquarters north of the Bay Area. This was our first time to have our own booth at OSCON. A common query was how to sign up as a mentor, and that's precisely a topic for a company headquarters meeting my supers will be at next week (I'm staying here in Portland, but Patrick is going). I'm hoping we can break it down into temporary contracts attractive to people already doing a lot in their lives, a way to stay in practice exercising inter-personal, not just techie skills. But then I don't want to bore edu-sig with a lot of company business, just wanting to leave a clear record for the ages in a prominent community archive. I'll end with a link to my OSCON photo album from this year (my records cover other OSCONs going back but not to the beginning, when it was the Perl Conference. I was still doing dBase back then. :-D https://www.flickr.com/photos/kirbyurner/sets/72157645488715488/ Sigh. I missed the Python User Group meeting in Portland this week, even though I'm on the organizing committee. We average about 40 per meetup and have a really good meeting space (spacious) with lots of options nearby for socializing more afterwards. Look me up when you're through Portland. I like meeting with other edu-siggers. 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Laura From kirby.urner at gmail.com Sun Aug 31 03:13:21 2014 From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 18:13:21 -0700 Subject: [Edu-sig] Looking back on OSCON XVI In-Reply-To: <201408302038.s7UKcHbV028407@fido.openend.se> References: <201408302038.s7UKcHbV028407@fido.openend.se> Message-ID: On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Laura Creighton wrote: > >In sketching out the Python ecosystem in broad brush terms, is it fair to > >say NumPy gets a lot of US investment whereas PyPy is more an EU pet > >project? Or is that too broad brush? > > Too broad. In investment terms, PyPy gets from _everywhere_, > including lots from the USA. But PyPy core contributors are still > mostly from not-in-the-USA ... unless things have changed in the last > 6 months while I have been busy elsewhere. > > Laura > > OK. I was partly asking because I know the US government is putting funds directly into Blaze: http://continuum.io/blog/blaze I don't know if the US government itself directly pays for PyPy development, but my impression is the EU itself does. Kirby -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kirby.urner at gmail.com Sun Aug 31 03:18:17 2014 From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 18:18:17 -0700 Subject: [Edu-sig] Python ecosystem (Blaze, NumPy, PyPy...) Message-ID: I should have changed the subject line. More on the funding story: http://news.dice.com/2013/02/06/continuum-analytics-using-darpa-funds-to-explore-python/ EU funding for PyPy: http://conferences.agilealliance.org/sessions/20060356 Then there's trying to get funding to have NumPy support PyPy or vice versa: http://morepypy.blogspot.com/2011/10/numpy-funding-and-status-update.html Kirby On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 6:13 PM, kirby urner wrote: > On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Laura Creighton wrote: > >> >In sketching out the Python ecosystem in broad brush terms, is it fair to >> >say NumPy gets a lot of US investment whereas PyPy is more an EU pet >> >project? Or is that too broad brush? >> >> Too broad. In investment terms, PyPy gets from _everywhere_, >> including lots from the USA. But PyPy core contributors are still >> mostly from not-in-the-USA ... unless things have changed in the last >> 6 months while I have been busy elsewhere. >> >> Laura >> >> > OK. I was partly asking because I know the US government is putting funds > directly into Blaze: > > http://continuum.io/blog/blaze > > I don't know if the US government itself directly pays for PyPy > development, but my impression is the EU itself does. > > Kirby > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lac at openend.se Sun Aug 31 12:12:31 2014 From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 12:12:31 +0200 Subject: [Edu-sig] Looking back on OSCON XVI In-Reply-To: Message from kirby urner of "Sat, 30 Aug 2014 18:13:21 -0700." References: <201408302038.s7UKcHbV028407@fido.openend.se> Message-ID: <201408311012.s7VACV9Z009219@fido.openend.se> In a message of Sat, 30 Aug 2014 18:13:21 -0700, kirby urner writes: >On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Laura Creighton wrote: > >> >In sketching out the Python ecosystem in broad brush terms, is it fair to >> >say NumPy gets a lot of US investment whereas PyPy is more an EU pet >> >project? Or is that too broad brush? >> >> Too broad. In investment terms, PyPy gets from _everywhere_, >> including lots from the USA. But PyPy core contributors are still >> mostly from not-in-the-USA ... unless things have changed in the last >> 6 months while I have been busy elsewhere. >> >> Laura >> >> >OK. I was partly asking because I know the US government is putting funds >directly into Blaze: > >http://continuum.io/blog/blaze > >I don't know if the US government itself directly pays for PyPy >development, but my impression is the EU itself does. > >Kirby The EU has in the past. But there hasn't been an EU grant proposal written for a while. Laura From jurgis.pralgauskis at gmail.com Sun Aug 31 18:35:57 2014 From: jurgis.pralgauskis at gmail.com (Jurgis Pralgauskis) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 19:35:57 +0300 Subject: [Edu-sig] https://www.python.org/success-stories/category/education/ In-Reply-To: <201408301022.s7UAM0EF016653@fido.openend.se> References: <5401932A.3020903@ntoll.org> <201408301022.s7UAM0EF016653@fido.openend.se> Message-ID: > I think the only way to get changes now is to mail the private list > psf-redesign at python.org. > maybe also https://www.python.org/success-stories/create/ -- Jurgis Pralgauskis tel: 8-616 77613; Don't worry, be happy and make things better ;) http://galvosukykla.lt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kirby.urner at gmail.com Sun Aug 31 19:39:31 2014 From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 10:39:31 -0700 Subject: [Edu-sig] https://www.python.org/success-stories/category/education/ In-Reply-To: References: <5401932A.3020903@ntoll.org> <201408301022.s7UAM0EF016653@fido.openend.se> Message-ID: Well, that was absurdly easy to do. I didn't really expect it to go straight to the website: https://www.python.org/success-stories/kirby-urner/ And guess what, I managed to get the URL wrong so if you click on the link... probably just as well. I'm finding a gazillion success stories though. https://www.python.org/about/success/ Kirby On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Jurgis Pralgauskis < jurgis.pralgauskis at gmail.com> wrote: > > I think the only way to get changes now is to mail the private list >> psf-redesign at python.org. >> > > maybe also https://www.python.org/success-stories/create/ > > > -- > Jurgis Pralgauskis > tel: 8-616 77613; > Don't worry, be happy and make things better ;) > http://galvosukykla.lt > > _______________________________________________ > Edu-sig mailing list > Edu-sig at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: