[Edu-sig] Getting more involved with education and the PSF...

[Jeff Elkner]

Let's see if Naomi has anything different to say, but doesn't it make
sense that the main task of the edu-sig coordinator would be to
coordinate the edu-sig's main event, the PES?

On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Chalmer Lowe <chalmer.lowe at gmail.com> wrote:
> Jeff, I would be happy to be the coordinator.
> Next question is...
> What are the official duties of a SIG coordinator?
> : )
>
> On May 23, 2014 10:40 AM, "Jeff Elkner" <jeff at elkner.net> wrote:
>>
>> OK, I'm all set with the access I need to edit the edu-sig page.  I
>> plan to spend at least part of my time on May 31st (National Day of
>> Civic Hacking) working on the web site.
>>
>> The bottom of our web page currently says: "Send suggestions for
>> changes to the edu-sig list.", which is a good way to handle
>> suggestions.
>>
>> Looking over the SIG page here: https://www.python.org/community/sigs/, I
>> read:
>>
>> * Each SIG has a charter, a coordinator, a mailing list, and a
>> directory on the Python website.
>> * SIG membership is informal, defined by subscription to the SIG's mailing
>> list.
>> * Anyone can join a SIG, and participate in the development
>> discussions via the SIG's mailing list.
>>
>> I don't think we have a edu-sig coordinator at present.  Would this be
>> something you would be interested in doing, Chalmer? Perhaps Naomi can
>> shed some more light on the practice for the last two years since she
>> started it, but it seems to me that a revived edu-sig would be the
>> logical group to help coordinate the PES.
>>
>> At some point soon we should add edu-sig on the SIG page as one of the
>> currently active SIGs.
>>
>> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Chalmer Lowe <chalmer.lowe at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Jeff:
>> >
>> > Thanks for spinning up this conversation. Great stuff.
>> >
>> > My intent is to volunteer to chair the Python Education Summit (PES)
>> > next
>> > year (based on Naomi's comments regarding stepping down). I don't know
>> > what
>> > the formal process is to make that official... Naomi... can you shed
>> > light
>> > on that?
>> >
>> > As everyone prolly already knows, that is not a task that can be done
>> > alone,
>> > so there should be plenty of opportunities for others to get their hands
>> > dirty. My guess/hope is that Jessica will want to help again this year.
>> >
>> > I captured a ton of notes and thoughts that I am putting to paper to
>> > outline
>> > 'the process' for next year's PES. Planned on putting that up on github
>> > as
>> > soon as I can. (I'm relocating right now, so free time is a luxury I
>> > don't
>> > have).
>> >
>> > Along with supporting the PES, I would love to support the types of
>> > efforts
>> > you are outlining here.
>> >
>> > Thanks again for firing up this conversation.
>> >
>> > chalmer
>> >
>> > Chalmer Lowe, MS
>> >
>> > http://projecteuler.net/profile/threelowelifes.png
>> > Level 1
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Andre Roberge
>> > <andre.roberge at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Jeff Elkner <jeff at elkner.net> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Two questions:
>> >>>
>> >>> 1. Andre, what do I need to do to begin maintaining that page?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I have not maintained the page for quite a few years now.  I changed
>> >> computer twice in the meantime.
>> >>
>> >> Here's what I remember that I had to do.
>> >>
>> >> 1. contact someone on the web support team  (pointing out, I think, to
>> >> the
>> >> relevant edu-sig discussion)
>> >>
>> >> I know you just asked about how to begin, but just in case you'd want
>> >> to
>> >> know, here were the next steps.
>> >>
>> >> 2. generate some ssh key (if I recall correctly) so that I would be
>> >> allowed to commit changes
>> >> 3. download the whole site (first time) or update it thereafter
>> >> 4. (re)build it locally.
>> >> 5. edit the relevant rst file
>> >> 6. rebuild it    (repeat 5 and 6 as needed)
>> >> 7. commit changes
>> >> 8. repeat steps 3 to 6 as needed (based on suggestions/requests
>> >> received)
>> >>
>> >> Now, it could well be that, with the redesign, the process is much
>> >> easier
>> >> and can be done online using a CMS.
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> 2. Is there anyone in this thread not on edu-sig?  My next reply will
>> >>> go only to the list.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Jessica Nickel
>> >>> <jessanickel at gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > Sounds like a plan. I would be happy to talk with Selena about the
>> >>> > work
>> >>> > to
>> >>> > bridge the gap between k-12 educators and Python programmers. I was
>> >>> > a
>> >>> > k-12
>> >>> > teacher for 10 years (music) and I have been working in schools with
>> >>> > my
>> >>> > program to teach python coding to kids for the past year and a half,
>> >>> > so
>> >>> > I do
>> >>> > have some experience in that area.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Jeff Elkner <jeff at elkner.net>
>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Great!  So it seems we have two short term goals:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> 1. Get someone to agree to maintain the website (I'm volunteering
>> >>> >> if
>> >>> >> there isn't anyone else chomping at the bit to do it).
>> >>> >> 2. Reach out to Selena Deckelman to help her with her efforts to
>> >>> >> bridge the gap between developers and K-12 teachers (a noble goal
>> >>> >> indeed!).
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Do we agree that edu-sig is the sensible place to hold this
>> >>> >> conversation?
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> If we do, can we ask Selena to join the list if she is not already
>> >>> >> there?  I'll also encourage folks like Lee Harr (cc'd here), the
>> >>> >> creator of the wonderful Pynguin environment
>> >>> >> (https://code.google.com/p/pynguin/) to join the list and the
>> >>> >> discussion.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Naomi Ceder
>> >>> >> <naomi.ceder at gmail.com>
>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >> > One point of info I can add - the person you're thinking of
>> >>> >> > running
>> >>> >> > for
>> >>> >> > PSF
>> >>> >> > board is Selena Deckelman, who was on Nate's panel at the edu
>> >>> >> > summit.
>> >>> >> > She's
>> >>> >> > been very into bridging the gap between developers and K-12
>> >>> >> > teachers.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Naomi
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
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