[Edu-sig] Python Education Summit

Thu Jan 8 18:45:25 CET 2015

Kirby:

you are right... and I am not talking about a coup.

I am saying that I sent a request to the list owner asking for help so that
my messages can get to the list.

I got no response...

the follow-on seems to be:
* identify if the email address for the owner is still active
* identify if the owner is still interested/able to do the job
* if no... either correct the address OR
* find a new owner (or better new owners) so that the list is maintained...

This morning, I also reached out to the maintainers of the mailing list
system as a whole:
mailman at python.org
postmaster at python.org

to see if anyone can troubleshoot why my messages are not getting through.

right now, checking the edu-sig archive, everyone's in this thread (you,
jeff, andre, etc) are getting through. I am the only one that isn't making
it... sigh.

chalmer

Chalmer Lowe, MS

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On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 7:29 AM, kirby urner <kirby.urner at gmail.com> wrote:

> Off hand, I'm not taking "not hearing from the listowner" as a reason to
> change ownership.
>
> Hypothetically, the listowner was appointed by the BDFL sometime in the
> murky past.  I long ago accepted life in a benevolent dictatorship.
>
> Kirby
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Chalmer Lowe <chalmer.lowe at gmail.com>
>  wrote:
>
>> If we aren't hearing from the list owner, I would be happy to take that
>> ... If we can get the over arching maillist admins to make that change, I
>> am happy to help. (After making a thorough effort to reach out to Wilson
>> directly, of course!)
>>
>> Chalmer
>> On Jan 8, 2015 7:15 AM, "kirby urner" <kirby.urner at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Looks good.
>>>
>>> I don't think we've ever heard from listowner Wilson on this list.  We
>>> do get good spam filtering I think.
>>>
>>> I've put in a request to be at the upcoming Pycon but I don't think it's
>>> been approved.  I was unable to attend last year.
>>>
>>> Edu-wise my focus believe or not has been the Python community in
>>> Bangalore, actually IT more generally, but women more specifically.
>>>
>>> Long story on math-teach.  I try not to duplicate too much of what I
>>> post.
>>>
>>> Kirby
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Andre Roberge <andre.roberge at gmail.com>
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Hoping *my* message will make it to the edu-sig list ...
>>>>
>>>> Please read the important announcement from Chalmer Lowe below.
>>>>
>>>> @Jeff: any chance you could investigate the mailing list issue and
>>>> ownership?   I never did so myself when I was maintaining the edu-sig page
>>>> ... and perhaps I should have.
>>>>
>>>> André
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Chalmer Lowe <chalmer.lowe at gmail.com>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> SNIP
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have attempted to reach out to the edu-sig on four occasions to
>>>>> advertise to them that the Edu Summit was coming.
>>>>>
>>>>> On two occasions, I sent edu-sig messages to the distro with a full
>>>>> rundown on the details, but neither of them made it through. I reached out
>>>>> to wilson at visi.com, who is purportedly the owner of the edu-sig
>>>>> distro for assistance in late December, but got NO response.
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought it was potentially due to some sort of spam filtering,
>>>>> especially since my posts included links and comments such as 'sign up',
>>>>> etc. so over the past several days, I have tried to send very simple test
>>>>> messages to the edu-sig mailing list, all to no avail.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am on the distro and get messages from it, but can't send to it. I
>>>>> see that you can send to the distro... so if you would be so kind as to
>>>>> assist and wouldn't mind posting the following to the edu-sig distro (at
>>>>> least until I get my account problems worked out), I would be most grateful
>>>>> for the help...
>>>>>
>>>>> <start>---------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> For those who wish to go to the Python Education Summit please feel
>>>>> free to sign up at the EventBrite Link... There was an error and the
>>>>> invite-only caveat is not applicable in years past, so please feel free to
>>>>> sign up and tell your friends.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-pycon-2015-education-summit-tickets-15029161627
>>>>>
>>>>> The Pycon Description of the Summit:
>>>>> https://us.pycon.org/2015/events/edusummit/
>>>>>
>>>>> For the current list of proposed talks... see our Google Moderator
>>>>> Site
>>>>> http://www.google.com/moderator/#16/e=211b44
>>>>>
>>>>> And of course, we are always looking for people willing to help out:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://pycon.blogspot.com/2014/12/looking-for-volunteers-pycon-2015.html
>>>>> <end>---------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
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On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 7:40 AM, Jeff Elkner <jeff at elkner.net> wrote:

> I just emailed Tim Wilson as well.  I don't expect a response (since
> Andre didn't get one), but I wanted to cover that base before making
> further inquiries.  I am of the opinion that edu-sig could be a
> valuable resource for us, and we ought to do what we can to bring it
> back on-line.
>
> I'm going to email the PSF list to ask who I can contact about perhaps
> taking over from Tim.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jeff
>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Andre Roberge <andre.roberge at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > Hoping *my* message will make it to the edu-sig list ...
> >
> > Please read the important announcement from Chalmer Lowe below.
> >
> > @Jeff: any chance you could investigate the mailing list issue and
> > ownership?   I never did so myself when I was maintaining the edu-sig
> page
> > ... and perhaps I should have.
> >
> > André
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Chalmer Lowe <chalmer.lowe at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > SNIP
> >>
> >>
> >> I have attempted to reach out to the edu-sig on four occasions to
> >> advertise to them that the Edu Summit was coming.
> >>
> >> On two occasions, I sent edu-sig messages to the distro with a full
> >> rundown on the details, but neither of them made it through. I reached
> out
> >> to wilson at visi.com, who is purportedly the owner of the edu-sig
> distro
> >> for assistance in late December, but got NO response.
> >>
> >> I thought it was potentially due to some sort of spam filtering,
> >> especially since my posts included links and comments such as 'sign up',
> >> etc. so over the past several days, I have tried to send very simple
> test
> >> messages to the edu-sig mailing list, all to no avail.
> >>
> >> I am on the distro and get messages from it, but can't send to it. I see
> >> that you can send to the distro... so if you would be so kind as to
> assist
> >> and wouldn't mind posting the following to the edu-sig distro (at least
> >> until I get my account problems worked out), I would be most grateful
> for
> >> the help...
> >>
> >> <start>---------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> For those who wish to go to the Python Education Summit please feel free
> >> to sign up at the EventBrite Link... There was an error and the
> invite-only
> >> caveat is not applicable in years past, so please feel free to sign up
> and
> >> tell your friends.
> >>
> >>
> http://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-pycon-2015-education-summit-tickets-15029161627
> >>
> >> The Pycon Description of the Summit:
> >> https://us.pycon.org/2015/events/edusummit/
> >>
> >> For the current list of proposed talks... see our Google Moderator Site
> >> http://www.google.com/moderator/#16/e=211b44
> >>
> >> And of course, we are always looking for people willing to help out:
> >>
> http://pycon.blogspot.com/2014/12/looking-for-volunteers-pycon-2015.html
> >> <end>---------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
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