[Edu-sig] Edu-sig Digest, Vol 155, Issue 3

Peter Farrell funcalculus at gmail.com
Mon Jun 6 12:35:59 EDT 2016


Thanks for taking me around, Kirby! I'm pursuing PD opportunities here in
the SF Bay Area, and I'd love to come back and co-teach a "Math Through
Technology" class at <guild /> !

I agree wholeheartedly with the EdSurge article Amit forwarded. I recently
gave a demo lesson at a school that doesn't yet have a CS program and I
showed how the goals of programming linked to each of the "math strategies"
the math teacher used to decorate the classroom: find patterns, plug in
numbers, draw a graph, and so on. (But I didn't get the job.)

It's going to be slow going, but with resources like Amit's book, my book,
and Kirby's future book, math teachers will no longer feel alone in wanting
to modernize their field.

Peter Farrell

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> My apologies to Amit and request for forgiveness in advance in taking quite
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> No problems, Kirby. Thank you for your work.
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> Great article.
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> I introduced Peter Farrell around <guild />.  I'm not an employee there
> just someone kicking around in the code school space, coming up with
> ideas.  Peter, a math teacher by training and credential, shares my
> enthusiasm for introducing a real REPL, along with saving / reusing
> functions.
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> I helped myself to two Diet Cokes, following the Python Circus pattern
> of offering participants some free soda pop **.  I were only there a few
> minutes, in route to Ethiopian food at SE 50th and Division.
>
> Sheri, the CEO, said they're getting more and more high schoolers
> banging on their door hoping to acquire skills denied them through
> other venues.  I can attest to seeing this phenomenon with mine own
> eyes.
>
> However, what Peter and I are looking at is more PD (professional
> development) for their adult math teachers, a more efficient way to
> fan the knowledge outward using existing distribution mechanisms.
> We'll brainstorm together in a collegial spirit.  This won't be "boot
> camp", more pooling memes.
>
> I don't sense much resistance to this idea, including from math teachers,
> who are chomping at the bit to be allowed to innovate, rather than to
> serve as task masters for some remotely put-together hewn in stone
> "core".  There was already a lobby (Software Association of Oregon)
> pushing exactly this agenda back in 2009.[1]
>
> "Adhering to Common Core standards" doesn't mean buying anything
> in particular, neither textbook nor test.  But I digress.  Message to
> teachers:  don't let the "edu-bullies" push you around.
>
> Peter reported feeling heartened by his visit.  I'm still following up
> on a lot of new connections, thanks to Pycon.  Great networking
> venue!  Great time hanging out with Peter.  More related postings
> to MathFuture (another shared file cabinet drawer).
>
> Kirby
>
> ** (this every-Monday meetup is distinct from ye old PPUG -- formerly
> PORPIG -- monthly meetup @ UrbanAirship these days, Portland Python
> User Group, see maillist and Meetup.com for details if passing through,
> and/or stop in @ <guild />).
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> [1]  http://worldgame.blogspot.com/2009/08/education-planning.html
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