From ntoll at ntoll.org  Sat Apr  1 13:08:49 2017
From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas H.Tollervey)
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 18:08:49 +0100
Subject: [Edu-sig] Help needed to run Python for Kids club.
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Briefly, https://www.codeclub.org.uk/ might be a good template.

:-)

N.

On 31/03/17 17:01, Jaaba wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm just a newbie in this forum . I was told to contact this group from
> Eva, from Python Software Foundation (PSF)
> 
> We have been doing a computer club kind of program for our school
> students based in Methuen, MA for 3 years. This year we are thinking to
> introduce Python to our kids from 5th grade and up.
> 
> I heard about PSF while i was exploring options to run a python club.
> I'm not sure whats the best way to start a python club with the support
> of PSF with some grant.
> 
> If you could throw some light on what we can do as part of our program,
> that would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
> Jaffar
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From wes.turner at gmail.com  Sat Apr  1 18:36:15 2017
From: wes.turner at gmail.com (Wes Turner)
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 17:36:15 -0500
Subject: [Edu-sig] Help needed to run Python for Kids club.
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http://kit.pyladies.com/en/stable/

> The pyladies kit gets you up and running with starting a PyLadies local
group, including what?s needed, advice, event planning help, and some tools
that may be helpful.

On Saturday, April 1, 2017, Nicholas H.Tollervey <ntoll at ntoll.org> wrote:

> Briefly, https://www.codeclub.org.uk/ might be a good template.
>
> :-)
>
> N.
>
> On 31/03/17 17:01, Jaaba wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm just a newbie in this forum . I was told to contact this group from
> > Eva, from Python Software Foundation (PSF)
> >
> > We have been doing a computer club kind of program for our school
> > students based in Methuen, MA for 3 years. This year we are thinking to
> > introduce Python to our kids from 5th grade and up.
> >
> > I heard about PSF while i was exploring options to run a python club.
> > I'm not sure whats the best way to start a python club with the support
> > of PSF with some grant.
> >
> > If you could throw some light on what we can do as part of our program,
> > that would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Jaffar
> >
> >
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From kirby.urner at gmail.com  Mon Apr  3 03:49:07 2017
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 00:49:07 -0700
Subject: [Edu-sig] CS50 lecture (Harvard)... good job!
Message-ID: <CAPJgG3Rtjks-bbyvQ5f1im=YmeHOompQSSWjsTYAmi3Ya93OwA@mail.gmail.com>

https://youtu.be/5aP9Bl9hcqI

I think this lecture by David J. Malan of Harvard, introducing Python in
Week 8, having slogged through C already, is top notch.

He's using Python 3 and really covering a ton of material, with lots of
references back to the C lectures. This is the only lecture of the series
I've seen at this point.

He somewhat reveals has Perl background (a lineage he confesses to) in
treating a module so much like a class, to where he starts calling
functions methods just because their imported and belong to some module.
In Perl, entire modules got blessed as classes as I recall.

On the topic of 'if __name__ == "__main__"', he's quite good on that but
seems to tie it to calling a function called main() every time.  I prefer
to explain that module may in principal be the one running top-level, with
everything else imported.  When imported, a module is never "__main__" by
default, so here's a way to provide a "just in case" section, containing
whatever.

He's good on Python being a both a language and a machine to combines
compiling and running into a single step, with bytecode the intermediate
runtime language. He didn't stop to talk about the different versions of
Python in the sense of CPython, Jython, Iron Python and PyPy. I thought he
would. Maybe in Week 9.

Within one two hour episode he's taken us all the way from simple
assignment and string formatting, to writing a simple Flask application
complete with Jinja2.  As someone who has lectured on Python quite a bit, I
have to admire the guy's stamina and sustained coherence.

Kirby

PS:  along those lines, I've been pumping out a bunch of Youtubes recently,
two of which feature repl.it using Python.  My scripts are somewhat trivial
this time, whereas in past Youtubes I've been showing off fancy VPython:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeBIlkJm4xglicSifacG4eewD9CQaWvU0

It'll suggest you log in / create account but you don't have to.  Cool
service though, you might wanna:

S Factor  -- introduces REPL.IT
https://repl.it/Glmi/6

RD to RT -- extended precision Decimal
https://repl.it/Gqyp/0

Fancier Python at work:
More About Hypertoons (VPython)

(all of these a part of the above Youtube playlist: Synergetics 101)
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From funcalculus at gmail.com  Mon Apr  3 19:01:01 2017
From: funcalculus at gmail.com (Peter Farrell)
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 16:01:01 -0700
Subject: [Edu-sig] Edu-sig Digest, Vol 165, Issue 3
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I'm enjoying the video, though it seems like a strange progression from
super-simple Scratch to super-complicated C to relatively simple Python.

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> https://youtu.be/5aP9Bl9hcqI
>
> I think this lecture by David J. Malan of Harvard, introducing Python in
> Week 8, having slogged through C already, is top notch.
>
> He's using Python 3 and really covering a ton of material, with lots of
> references back to the C lectures. This is the only lecture of the series
> I've seen at this point.
>
> He somewhat reveals has Perl background (a lineage he confesses to) in
> treating a module so much like a class, to where he starts calling
> functions methods just because their imported and belong to some module.
> In Perl, entire modules got blessed as classes as I recall.
>
> On the topic of 'if __name__ == "__main__"', he's quite good on that but
> seems to tie it to calling a function called main() every time.  I prefer
> to explain that module may in principal be the one running top-level, with
> everything else imported.  When imported, a module is never "__main__" by
> default, so here's a way to provide a "just in case" section, containing
> whatever.
>
> He's good on Python being a both a language and a machine to combines
> compiling and running into a single step, with bytecode the intermediate
> runtime language. He didn't stop to talk about the different versions of
> Python in the sense of CPython, Jython, Iron Python and PyPy. I thought he
> would. Maybe in Week 9.
>
> Within one two hour episode he's taken us all the way from simple
> assignment and string formatting, to writing a simple Flask application
> complete with Jinja2.  As someone who has lectured on Python quite a bit, I
> have to admire the guy's stamina and sustained coherence.
>
> Kirby
>
> PS:  along those lines, I've been pumping out a bunch of Youtubes recently,
> two of which feature repl.it using Python.  My scripts are somewhat
> trivial
> this time, whereas in past Youtubes I've been showing off fancy VPython:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeBIlkJm4xglicSifacG4eewD9CQaWvU0
>
> It'll suggest you log in / create account but you don't have to.  Cool
> service though, you might wanna:
>
> S Factor  -- introduces REPL.IT
> https://repl.it/Glmi/6
>
> RD to RT -- extended precision Decimal
> https://repl.it/Gqyp/0
>
> Fancier Python at work:
> More About Hypertoons (VPython)
>
> (all of these a part of the above Youtube playlist: Synergetics 101)
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From sergio_r at mail.com  Tue Apr  4 20:03:22 2017
From: sergio_r at mail.com (Sergio Rojas)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 02:03:22 +0200
Subject: [Edu-sig] A contribution for enhancing your Python SciPy skills
Message-ID: <trinity-b5e977be-68df-4e66-a080-53ffe8513237-1491350602697@3capp-mailcom-lxa07>

Hello Guys,

I am just very happy to have finished my video project with Pack on a brief introduction to Machine Learning via SciPy :

https://www.packtpub.com/big-data-and-business-intelligence/numerical-and-scientific-computing-scipy-video

Previously, as you might know, we finished this one:

https://www.packtpub.com/big-data-and-business-intelligence/learning-scipy-numerical-and-scientific-computing-second-edition

https://github.com/rojassergio/Learning-Scipy 

Hope you can spread the word.

Salut,

Sergio

From kirby.urner at gmail.com  Sat Apr 22 09:51:12 2017
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 06:51:12 -0700
Subject: [Edu-sig] recent thread @ Math Forum
Message-ID: <CAPJgG3R2Ktpf-SjYqzz6QJ8uk5LtGwZZ_GAATKn7da_rXqV2tA@mail.gmail.com>

In anticipation of Pycon:  this thread on math-teach
extends my thinking regarding "learning to code" and
math education:

http://mathforum.org/kb/thread.jspa?threadID=2852324
(Business Math? Forum 206 / MF / Drexel University)

Actual math teachers have a hard time chiming in, as
the content seems alien. Speaking from personal experience
however, this is what kids are learning. MIT Scratch has
made a big difference.

Kirby
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From santiago at rmotr.com  Thu Apr 27 17:58:13 2017
From: santiago at rmotr.com (Santiago Basulto)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 18:58:13 -0300
Subject: [Edu-sig] Helping with Python education
Message-ID: <CAH6mLdiH0WYb_iQVJva1Be_nwDrRapJ81T8zM-BBpuhmuT5uJQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone, it's a pleasure to get in touch with you.

I'm a long time Python developer. The reason I'm writing here is because
I'd like to see in which ways I could collaborate with the Education
efforts carried on by this group. I've been involved with Education all my
life and it's one of my passions. 2 years ago I've founded a company that
specializes in Python education (rmotr.com). Today I have a little more
free time and I'd love to collaborate with the Python community.

Sorry if my questions are repetitive, but, Is there any document that lists
pending tasks or things which I could collaborate with? Is there anybody
specially dedicated to it? What'd be the best way to help in general?

Thanks very much for your time.

-- 
Santiago Basulto.-
Co-founder @ rmotr.com
https://github.com/santiagobasulto
https://twitter.com/santiagobasulto
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From aharrin at luc.edu  Fri Apr 28 14:00:01 2017
From: aharrin at luc.edu (Andrew Harrington)
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 14:00:01 -0400
Subject: [Edu-sig] Helping with Python education
In-Reply-To: <02058c8a440f4b06a88faee0beb19fda@MBXLS1.adms.luc.edu>
References: <02058c8a440f4b06a88faee0beb19fda@MBXLS1.adms.luc.edu>
Message-ID: <CAOaxTEJniLf_k+p3FFc9KcPr7T3J_zo5D6Yr9m=ku7xqYbz78g@mail.gmail.com>

No general list that I know of, but here is a cool broad project, extending
a long line of open source / creative commons contributions:
http://runestoneinteractive.org/index.html

Dr. Andrew N. Harrington
  Computer Science Department
  Graduate Program Director gpd at cs.luc.edu
  Loyola University Chicago
  529 Lewis Towers, 111 E. Pearson St. (Downtown)
  417 Cudahy Science Hall (Rogers Park campus)
http://www.cs.luc.edu/~anh
Phone: 312-915-7982
Fax:    312-915-7998
aharrin at luc.edu (as professor, not gpd role)

On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 5:58 PM, Santiago Basulto <santiago at rmotr.com>
wrote:

> Hello everyone, it's a pleasure to get in touch with you.
>
> I'm a long time Python developer. The reason I'm writing here is because
> I'd like to see in which ways I could collaborate with the Education
> efforts carried on by this group. I've been involved with Education all my
> life and it's one of my passions. 2 years ago I've founded a company that
> specializes in Python education (rmotr.com). Today I have a little more
> free time and I'd love to collaborate with the Python community.
>
> Sorry if my questions are repetitive, but, Is there any document that
> lists pending tasks or things which I could collaborate with? Is there
> anybody specially dedicated to it? What'd be the best way to help in
> general?
>
> Thanks very much for your time.
>
> --
> Santiago Basulto.-
> Co-founder @ rmotr.com
> https://github.com/santiagobasulto
> https://twitter.com/santiagobasulto
>
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From kirby.urner at gmail.com  Fri Apr 28 18:49:33 2017
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 15:49:33 -0700
Subject: [Edu-sig] Helping with Python education
In-Reply-To: <CAH6mLdiH0WYb_iQVJva1Be_nwDrRapJ81T8zM-BBpuhmuT5uJQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH6mLdiH0WYb_iQVJva1Be_nwDrRapJ81T8zM-BBpuhmuT5uJQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPJgG3Qpc3CysCY=J4q62=oazFVJEZ8e8L-L2UvctGV9JrwMqQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Santiago --

I'm not aware of any centralized "to do" list.

We live in a quickly changing world so I'm doubtful anyone has enough
overview to source one.

Andrew Harrington's suggestion, to add to the growing library of
interactive resources, seems excellent.

I'm working with a teaching company, Coding with Kids, based in Redmond, WA
(home of Microsoft) that integrates Python into its teaching.

The tools we use currently goes something like: code.org -> MIT Scratch ->
Codesters.org -> Cloud9 (c9.io) and Codepen.io.

By the time we get towards the end, we're also learning Javascript (JS).

The latest JS is a lot like Python in many dimensions (but different, so
contrasts also useful).

My own focus, through Oregon Curriculum Network (which I sponsor) is better
integration of learning to code with learning mathematics more generally.
[1]

There's also a lot of emphasis on coding hardware devices and Python has
had a role in that world, with the BBC Micro:bit especially. [2]

In my part of the world, a lot of that portion of the curriculum is focused
on Arduino, programmed in a Processing-derived language that maps to C.

I expect you're already familiar with most if not all of these tools.

Kirby

[1]  http://www.4dsolutions.net/ocn/cp4e.html

[2]  https://www.microbit.co.uk/python-guide
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Hello everyone, it's a pleasure to get in touch with you.

I'm a long time Python developer. The reason I'm writing here is because
I'd like to see in which ways I could collaborate with the Education
efforts carried on by this group. I've been involved with Education all my
life and it's one of my passions. 2 years ago I've founded a company that
specializes in Python education (rmotr.com). Today I have a little more
free time and I'd love to collaborate with the Python community.

Sorry if my questions are repetitive, but, Is there any document that 
lists
pending tasks or things which I could collaborate with? Is there anybody
specially dedicated to it? What'd be the best way to help in general?

Thanks very much for your time.

-- 
Santiago Basulto.-
Co-founder @ rmotr.com
https://github.com/santiagobasulto
https://twitter.com/santiagobasulto
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From kirby.urner at gmail.com  Sat Apr 29 16:25:56 2017
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 13:25:56 -0700
Subject: [Edu-sig] Welcoming newcomers
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On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 9:59 AM, <Jeannine.Coutts at use.salvationarmy.org>
wrote:

> I am also new to this community. I am interested in learning how to
> implement Python coding into lessons for elementary students.
>
> Sincerely,
> Ms. Jeannine S. Coutts
> Education Technology Specialist
>

Hi Jeannine, welcome to edu-sig.  I'm one of the two listowners currently,
Naomi Ceder the other, though for decades on edu-sig that wasn't true i.e.
I'm relatively new in that capacity.

We've been fortunate over the years to have done a lot of brainstorming,
all archived, but then the vista keeps changing so it's not like there's a
point where everything we could say has been said. :-D

I used to be a high school math teacher long ago and more recently have
worked with junior high aged.

Only in the last few months have I had much first hand experience in a
classroom populated with 1st graders tackling Scratch, or 5th graders
tackling Codesters.

My sense of what's realistic and possible is still developing.  I'm almost
60 years old myself, lots of white hair.

What we find at the company I work for is that Chromebooks are adequate for
getting into the cloud via WiFi, where a host of on-line tools makes coding
accessible even to the very young.

However when you have to hunt for every keyboard key, and fight mightily
with a track pad, just to slide some blob around, you're hardly ready to do
much typing.

Codesters.com offers a drag and drop approach to Python programming, free
of charge, however it's built to imitate MIT Scratch, with which it helps
to be familiar with first.

Before Scratch, you have games like at Code.org, which help develop the
finer motor skills.

Example:

https://studio.code.org/hoc/1
(may trigger a promotional video, PR for Learning to Code, then it takes
you to an exercise I'm actually seeing used with 1st graders here in
Portland, along with MIT Scratch).

I'm about to dive into Codesters myself to see if I can get a tic-tac-toe
thing going in the canvas, rather than console-based, which is already
provided.

Here on this list, Andre has developed Reeborg's World:
http://reeborg.ca/index_en.html

Also, we've enjoyed the presence of Gregor Lingl who maintains the turtle
module.

Right out of the box, Python comes with turtle graphics, if you have IDLE
installed.

https://docs.python.org/3.6/library/turtle.html

Older debates on this listserv have been about whether kids that young
shouldn't be out developing gross motor skills first, like is so much
screen time really ideal?  However not all kids are alike in their
interests and for those really eager to dive in, its great to have some
options.

Another resource I enjoy:  repl.it

Just last night I was working on this one:
https://repl.it/H7VF/11  (a window pops up asking you to sign up, but you
don't have to)

There's a ton of stuff out there!  More every day it seems.

Kirby

PS:

Here's a talk I'm lining up to give at the Linus Pauling House next
Tuesday, a meet-up place in my neighborhood (Portland claims to Linus's or
Lini, both Torvalds and Pauling, the latter a 2x Nobel Prize winner,
unshared, for both chemistry and peace, though he credited his wife Ava
Helen for a lot of his courage in doing peace work).


*What Does the Future Bode, in Terms of Learning to Code?*

The "code school" business is still shaping up in
a rough and tumble world, full of uncertainties.

*O'Reilly Media* finally threw in the towel, closing
its fledgling *School of Technology*.  So then what
happened to Wanderer Kirby Urner, one of the
school's full time Python mentors (souvenir biz
cards will be available)?

He's branched out into mentoring much younger
folk, in addition to sometimes hosting a night gig
for professional adults, off and on (a forty hour
ordeal). He did a Python for Wanderers a few
years ago, Allen Taylor attending.

*Coding with Kids* is the new company, based in
Redmond, so you might be thinking Windows,
but we use Chromebooks on resources in the
cloud, what Kirby plans to project.  After school,
in schools (both public and private).

Given Kirby's unique perspective from the front
lines, along with years spent developing curriculum
for his Oregon Curriculum Network [1], we should
get some interesting discussion going, starting
with a 20 minute show and tell (projected) featuring
some of the latest tools now in use in education.

*Presenter's bio*:

Kirby is a former full time math teach (St. Dom's
in Jersey City), text book editor, political activist
etc., an early childhood denizen of Portland with
an upbringing overseas (Rome, Manila) and a
degree from Princeton (philosophy a focus). He
returned to Portland in his later twenties to met
his late wife Dawn Wicca and raise a family.
(ISEPP was one of Dawn's bookkeeping clients
back in the 1990s). Kirby specialized in writing
programs for nonprofits and for medical research.

Full resume:  http://grunch.net/kirby-urner

Want to optionally do some homework ahead of time?
Read these to bone up on the presenter's views:

*On Medium*:

https://medium.com/@kirbyurner/is-code-school-the-
new-high-school-30a8874170b
https://medium.com/@kirbyurner/the-plight-of-high-school-math-teachers-
c0faf0a6efe6

*Ongoing Debate @ Math Forum*:
http://mathforum.org/kb/thread.jspa?threadID=2852324

[1] Oregon Curriculum Network
http://4dsolutions.net/ocn/cp4e.html
http://4dsolutions.net/ocn/
http://wikieducator.org/Digital_Math
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From wes.turner at gmail.com  Sat Apr 29 18:07:15 2017
From: wes.turner at gmail.com (Wes Turner)
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 17:07:15 -0500
Subject: [Edu-sig] Helping with Python education
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- This list has lots of great ideas and resources:
  http://markmail.org/search/?q=list:org.python.edu-sig

  - http://markmail.org/search/?q=list%3Aorg.python.edu-sig#
query:list%3Aorg.python.edu-sig%20from%3A%22Wes%20Turner%22
    - I tend to share lots of links

Things that could be done (someone could):

- [ ] create a GitHub repo [and/or team] for edu-sig w/ a README.rst an an
issue #1 as a meta-issue
  - e.g. python/core-workflow: https://github.com/python/core-
workflow/issues
  - [ ] README.rst:
    - https://www.python.org/community/sigs/current/edu-sig/ (link to /
port from)
      - an awesome-python-edu README.rst repo (with a table of ``..
contents::` ) might also spurn contributions of useful resources
  - [ ] Issue #1



On Friday, April 28, 2017, kirby urner <kirby.urner at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Hi Santiago --
>
> I'm not aware of any centralized "to do" list.
>
> We live in a quickly changing world so I'm doubtful anyone has enough
> overview to source one.
>
> Andrew Harrington's suggestion, to add to the growing library of
> interactive resources, seems excellent.
>

- [ ] Add JSON-LD and/or RDFa markup to #OER resources for search

 - https://schema.org/CreativeWork
   - https://schema.org/Course
      - https://schema.org/CourseInstance
 - https://schema.org/SoftwareApplication

 - https://schema.org/name
 - https://schema.org/url
 - https://schema.org/description
 - https://schema.org/about
 - https://schema.org/identifier
 - https://schema.org/educationalAlignment


> I'm working with a teaching company, Coding with Kids, based in Redmond,
> WA (home of Microsoft) that integrates Python into its teaching.
>
> The tools we use currently goes something like: code.org -> MIT Scratch
> -> Codesters.org -> Cloud9 (c9.io) and Codepen.io.
>

- https://github.com/jupyter/docker-stacks

- https://github.com/jupyter/nbgrader
  - "A system for assigning and grading notebooks"

- https://github.com/sagemathinc/smc
  - https://hub.docker.com/r/sagemathinc/sagemathcloud/
  - https://sagemath.blogspot.com/2014/10/sagemathcloud-
course-management.html
  - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t72TwWy6RL0 ~2m vid
  - https://mikecroucher.github.io/SMC_tutorial/course_
management/course_management.html

- http://pyalgo.tpq.io/
  - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBXjexQFFz4
  - Table of Contents
  - Web shell
  - Jupyter


>
> By the time we get towards the end, we're also learning Javascript (JS).
>
> The latest JS is a lot like Python in many dimensions (but different, so
> contrasts also useful).
>

- "Python + JS == more than their sum()"
  http://markmail.org/thread/fazgvf6deozfg7ud


>
> My own focus, through Oregon Curriculum Network (which I sponsor) is
> better integration of learning to code with learning mathematics more
> generally. [1]
>

How do these curriculum resources integrate with general mathematics
content?

- https://k12cs.org/framework-statements-by-concept/
  - https://k12cs.org/statements-of-support/
  - https://k12cs.org/framework-statements-by-concept/#jump-data-analysis

- https://code.org/educate/curriculum/high-school
  - https://secure-media.collegeboard.org/digitalServices/pdf/ap/ap-
computer-science-principles-course-and-exam-description.pdf
    - AP Computer Science Principles

- "Think Complexity" (Free book!)
   http://greenteapress.com/complexity/


Can I do Khan Academy {math,} exercises w/ git, miniconda, and jupyter
notebook?

  - [ ] create a cookiecutter template w/ Pipfile, nb/ (notebooks), /docs,
setup.py, /tests (runipy, )


>
> There's also a lot of emphasis on coding hardware devices and Python has
> had a role in that world, with the BBC Micro:bit especially. [2]
>

- Raspberry Pi's ship with Python ver. n installed (and USB and HDMI and
WiFi)
  - There are not yet conda repos for ARM
    - https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-forge.github.io/issues/269
      "Build conda packages on linux-armv7l arch (e.g. Raspberry Pi)"


>
> In my part of the world, a lot of that portion of the curriculum is
> focused on Arduino, programmed in a Processing-derived language that maps
> to C.
>

The Khan Academy IntroJS exercises are built w/ ProcessingJS:
https://www.khanacademy.org/computing/computer-programming/programming



>
> I expect you're already familiar with most if not all of these tools.
>
> Kirby
>
> [1]  http://www.4dsolutions.net/ocn/cp4e.html
>
> [2]  https://www.microbit.co.uk/python-guide
>
>
>
>
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From wes.turner at gmail.com  Sat Apr 29 18:32:17 2017
From: wes.turner at gmail.com (Wes Turner)
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 17:32:17 -0500
Subject: [Edu-sig] Welcoming newcomers
In-Reply-To: <CAPJgG3TJF2XMVNQEYNAzXAL+Q7=9tzu09KohNoE=AR-7Jq5+gg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPJgG3TJF2XMVNQEYNAzXAL+Q7=9tzu09KohNoE=AR-7Jq5+gg@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 3:25 PM, kirby urner <kirby.urner at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 9:59 AM, <Jeannine.Coutts at use.salvationarmy.org>
> wrote:
>
>> I am also new to this community. I am interested in learning how to
>> implement Python coding into lessons for elementary students.
>
>

- https://www.python.org/community/sigs/current/edu-sig/

Resources


   1. Mailing lists
      <https://www.python.org/community/sigs/current/edu-sig/#mailing-lists>
      2. Free books
      <https://www.python.org/community/sigs/current/edu-sig/#free-books>
      3. Textbooks
      <https://www.python.org/community/sigs/current/edu-sig/#textbooks>
      4. Learning environments
      <https://www.python.org/community/sigs/current/edu-sig/#learning-environments>
      5. Learning resources
      <https://www.python.org/community/sigs/current/edu-sig/#learning-resources>
      6. Videos
      <https://www.python.org/community/sigs/current/edu-sig/#videos>
      7. Specialized packages
      <https://www.python.org/community/sigs/current/edu-sig/#specialized-packages>
      8. Academic papers
      <https://www.python.org/community/sigs/current/edu-sig/#academic-papers>
      9. Game time!
      <https://www.python.org/community/sigs/current/edu-sig/#game-time>
      10. Miscellaneous
      <https://www.python.org/community/sigs/current/edu-sig/#miscellaneous>
      11. SIG administrivia
      <https://www.python.org/community/sigs/current/edu-sig/#sig-administrivia>


- https://code.org/educate/curriculum/elementary-school
  - These aren't {all?} in Python

- https://k12cs.org/framework-statements-by-grade-band/


- https://www.codesters.com/
  - Is there anything easier to get started w/ in Python than codesters?
    - Web-based platform (no downloading, installing, )
    - #OER would be outstanding




>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Ms. Jeannine S. Coutts
>> Education Technology Specialist
>>
>
> Hi Jeannine, welcome to edu-sig.  I'm one of the two listowners currently,
> Naomi Ceder the other, though for decades on edu-sig that wasn't true i.e.
> I'm relatively new in that capacity.
>
> We've been fortunate over the years to have done a lot of brainstorming,
> all archived,
>

http://markmail.org/search/?q=list:org.python.edu-sig
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From jcg at quobit.net  Sat Apr 29 18:55:36 2017
From: jcg at quobit.net (=?UTF-8?B?Sm9zw6kgQ2FybG9zIEdhcmPDrWE=?=)
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 00:55:36 +0200
Subject: [Edu-sig] Edu-sig Digest, Vol 165, Issue 9
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5951.1493503637.2950.edu-sig@python.org>
References: <mailman.5951.1493503637.2950.edu-sig@python.org>
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On 30 April 2017 at 00:07, <edu-sig-request at python.org> wrote:

> - an awesome-python-edu README.rst repo (with a table of ``..
> contents::` ) might also spurn contributions of useful resources
>


?Hi, I'm a secondary school & VET CS teacher in Spain (though I'm 6 years
seconded at the local education administration; so not teaching these
years).

About Wes Turner's proposal: in the last months I've been collecting lots
of links on https://github.com/quobit/awesome-python-in-education

But the list is not very well organized for the purpose I think it should
have. My dedication has been very sparse: very short commits (one or two
links each) and poor classification.

Please feel free to open issues, comment anything or start a conversation
about it (I think this could be named a Request For Comments). Any help
would be appreciated.

Cheers!
?
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From aharrin at luc.edu  Sat Apr 29 20:30:19 2017
From: aharrin at luc.edu (Andrew Harrington)
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 20:30:19 -0400
Subject: [Edu-sig] Edu-sig Digest, Vol 165, Issue 9
In-Reply-To: <cc7ecebaf31c4bc1b437e5a5234f2840@MBXLS1.adms.luc.edu>
References: <mailman.5951.1493503637.2950.edu-sig@python.org>
 <cc7ecebaf31c4bc1b437e5a5234f2840@MBXLS1.adms.luc.edu>
Message-ID: <CAOaxTEKh-iBdHfcRRHwfNhy8Zr-EAqjpbNSWA1msSDOnKWsxBA@mail.gmail.com>

awesome list for awesome Python!

Dr. Andrew N. Harrington
  Computer Science Department
  Graduate Program Director gpd at cs.luc.edu
  Loyola University Chicago
  529 Lewis Towers, 111 E. Pearson St. (Downtown)
  417 Cudahy Science Hall (Rogers Park campus)
http://www.cs.luc.edu/~anh
Phone: 312-915-7982
Fax:    312-915-7998
aharrin at luc.edu (as professor, not gpd role)

On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 6:55 PM, Jos? Carlos Garc?a <jcg at quobit.net> wrote:

>
> On 30 April 2017 at 00:07, <edu-sig-request at python.org> wrote:
>
>> - an awesome-python-edu README.rst repo (with a table of ``..
>> contents::` ) might also spurn contributions of useful resources
>>
>
>
> ?Hi, I'm a secondary school & VET CS teacher in Spain (though I'm 6 years
> seconded at the local education administration; so not teaching these
> years).
>
> About Wes Turner's proposal: in the last months I've been collecting lots
> of links on https://github.com/quobit/awesome-python-in-education
>
> But the list is not very well organized for the purpose I think it should
> have. My dedication has been very sparse: very short commits (one or two
> links each) and poor classification.
>
> Please feel free to open issues, comment anything or start a conversation
> about it (I think this could be named a Request For Comments). Any help
> would be appreciated.
>
> Cheers!
> ?
>
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From kirby.urner at gmail.com  Sun Apr 30 01:36:07 2017
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 22:36:07 -0700
Subject: [Edu-sig] Welcoming newcomers
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On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Jos? Carlos Garc?a <jcg at quobit.net> wrote:

>
> On 30 April 2017 at 00:07, <edu-sig-request at python.org> wrote:
>
>> - an awesome-python-edu README.rst repo (with a table of ``..
>> contents::` ) might also spurn contributions of useful resources
>>
>
>
> ?Hi, I'm a secondary school & VET CS teacher in Spain (though I'm 6 years
> seconded at the local education administration; so not teaching these
> years).
>
> About Wes Turner's proposal: in the last months I've been collecting lots
> of links on https://github.com/quobit/awesome-python-in-education
>
>
Echoing Andrew, great list!

Although O'Reilly School of Tech closed its doors, the virtual curriculum
remains in the commons, authored by Steve Holden, past PSF chair and
instigator of the North American Pycon.

http://archive.oreilly.com/oreillyschool/courses/courses.html#course_id_158

That's the one I mentored for a few years, be for shifting gears again.

I'm something of a Youtube addict and am always finding new ones, but am
not very organized about curating -- that could change.

Wes, thanks for all those links, which I'm learning from.

I'm finally looking more at Processing thanks to poking around with Arduino
more.

They say Python is a great glue language, meaning it's always looking for
stuff to glue onto (or should we say embrace?).

Kirby
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From andre.roberge at gmail.com  Sun Apr 30 08:14:41 2017
From: andre.roberge at gmail.com (Andre Roberge)
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 09:14:41 -0300
Subject: [Edu-sig] Pre-announcement: nonstandard module
Message-ID: <CAGMu_=rgM1rwXG56dFnEVQLP=OS0ghF3rVBNK=yJ=Y=SCZYF5Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone,

If you use Python only to teach the very basic ideas of programming to
beginners, and if your students normally use a non-ascii based alphabet
language (and thus may struggle with entering Python keywords), you might
be interested in something I am working on:

https://github.com/aroberge/nonstandard

nonstandard allows one to use code transformations defined in
a simple way to change Python's standard syntax.

[This ide of using "simple native language keywords" was mentioned by Terry
Reddy as something desirable to implement for IDLE
https://mail.python.org/pipermail/idle-dev/2015-October/003642.html.]

A list of the available transformations is found here:
https://github.com/aroberge/nonstandard/tree/master/nonstandard/transformers

As a demonstration, I have included a transformation that makes it possible
to use a French version of Python's keywords.  Personally, I would not use
this version as a teaching tool, since the English alphabet is a subset of
the French one, ... but it was the only language I was confident enough to
use as a demonstration. ;-)

I realize that this may be of interest to only a few people on this list,
and do not mind if you reply to me directly

Andr?

P.S. CS professionals will likely recoil in horror if they look at the code
and see what I did to make this work. As someone with no formal CS
education, my coding motto is "do the simplest thing that works".
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